Right Angle Torus ? Means ?

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So, you're continuing to believe that "torus" is what Kirk said? Not "course"?

    What makes you think this is true?
     
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  3. river

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    I don't think that it is true I KNOW that it is true .

    As I suggested if you netflix or another way of watching the episode , then do it .
     
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  5. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    See photo of square donut

    Has 4 corners

    Slightly rounded

    But it's a torus

    A square coffee cup would work the same

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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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  8. river

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    So the torus has to squared in order to go at right angle to the torus ? Is this what your saying ?
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, technically it isn't. A torus is defined as rotating a circle around a central point.

    But OK, now it's a mangled torus.

    In a series that, as pointed out by the OP, employs little more than simplistic 2D motion in space, Kirk is not going to start delivering geometric tactical plans.

    All moot of course. Post 11 has it right; he says "right angle course."
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There's no torus.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Like Jan KNOWS God exists.
     
  12. river

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    There is , the tractor beam creates the torus , three dimensionally .
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That has nothing to do with what Kirk said.
    Go watch it again.

    BTW, don't know if you are watching the new remastered version. It's is conceivable that they updated the special effects. I don't think it the tractor beam was toroidal in the original series.

    Regardless, they did not update the audio track.
     
  14. river

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    It is all to do with what Kirk said . The reason Kirk wanted the " right angle torus " manuver was to break the tractor beam of the ship that had the Enterprise in its grip . The tractor beam is torus beam which surrounded the Enterprise . And don't forget it worked . Kirk freed the Enterprise from the tractor beam .
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I just watched it.

    Kirk says "I want a right-angled course."

    Also, the tractor beam is not visible. So that's twice no torus.

    If there is any doubt remaining, I will be happy to upload the scene.
     
  16. river

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    Then you have not listened closely enough .

    Of course the tractor beam is not visible .
     
  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Watch it again. He says "I want a right-angled course".

    Then how do you know what shape it is?
     
  18. river

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    You are right , I just watched it again , Kirk did say a " right angle course " .

    My apologies to all .

    river
     
  19. river

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    Thread is closed .
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    OK, I will stop the upload.
     
  21. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Go back a few posts to where I was confused about the wording about the Enterprise going into (NOT at) a right angle torus

    So yes the torus has to be square

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  22. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Are you aware a topologist is a person who cannot tell the difference between a coffee mug and a donut—so goes a joke about a little-known scientific field crowned Tuesday with a Nobel Physics Prize

    https://www.google.com.au/amp/www.g...offee-mug-a-donut-topology-explains-it/story/

    Have a look at the illustrations of the coffee cup as a torus

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  23. The God Valued Senior Member

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    Michael 345 was contributing all along without base information, till Janus resolved the issue. Nice to see river closing it honorably.
     

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