No. It's self-rewarding. It's self-delusional. It's admitting that you can't earn, you can only take. It's masking your inadequacies with adjectives you deliver to others. It's transference and denial. It's so you.
It's self-defense. The right of anyone, however undeserving of respect from the likes of you, against the employment of capricious power in aggression, including from the likes of you. The alternative is dependency on the goodwill of the likes of you.
Additionally, by your "logic", then we can also say that the middle and lower classes ALSO (of course) use govt. infrastructure as well, if not more than the rich. Infact poor people not only use the govt. infrastructure, they get govt. housing sometimes and welfare ! I have no problem with that. But back to the point of this thread and what you said. If Obama and liberals call it "rewarding" the rich by not raising their taxes or lowering their taxes; then you could EASILY say the same thing about the middle and lower classes. They too are being "rewarded" by the govt. if their taxes aren't raised or lowered. Infact the lower class is being "rewarded" A LOT with all their perks, by your "logic". So not only why does Obama call it "rewarding" the rich by not taking more of THEIR money. Why doesn't Obama and liberals say it's rewarding the poor and middle class by not raising their taxes ? After all, like you said, they reep the "rewards" from the govt. too......
not at all the left go on and on about lower the poor and middle class taxes and raising the rich's taxes, a "robin hood policy". the government is "broken" for other reasons then taxes, cutting the governments funds it not going to help fix the government. Many countries spend taxes much greater then the USA, yet have higher standards of living and higher satisfaction with their government. In fact I think our government is less the problem then the people: the USA is filled with selfish fuck wades that simply aren't willing to pay up.
Yea, those "greedy" Americans Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/14/news/economy/us_charity/ http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-06-25-charitable_N.htm http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/88da8502-99d0-11db-8b6d-0000779e2340.html?nclick_check=1 http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-26-big-donations_x.htm And that doesn't include money "greedy" Americans pay in taxes, and then the U.S. govt. itself uses that tax money for charity around the world.
There a difference between charity and government maintenance, wanting to help someone that looks needy is very different from wanting to help those that have power over you.
But they probably maintain the businesses which made their family wealthy in the first place. That means continued employment, economic growth and investment for the whole nation. I'd like to see some evidence of this. Nepotism is usually ruinous for any industry. This can be prevented with the appropriate legislation and market regulations, the kind that monitors monopolies and mergers and keeps an eye on price fixing. Taxation punishes our brightest stars, and rewards our lowest and uninspired minds. Once you've finished paying everyone back out of your socialist conscience you'll find yourself back aboard the Mayflower, penniless and destitute, but this time without even a destination to head for, and with no choice but to turn around and go right back to where you came from.
Did it do anything to lower your taxes?, if they raise the capital gains tax rate, on the rich will it do anything to lower your tax rate, NO! At 15% who pays more taxes, a Individual who make $1,000,000 dollars? or a Individual makes $60,000 dollars? The answer is that they both pay the same, Now who pays more money to the government at 15% tax rate, the Man who make $1,000,000 dollars or the Man who makes $60,000 dollars? The Man who make a Million Dollars pays, $150,000 dollars, the Man who makes sixty thousand dollars pays $9,000, so the Rich Man just paid 17 time more in taxes than you did, and you want to rob him again? Now especially if that man is a business owner, (and all we here is that business should pay more in taxes), due you think that maybe with the money he could expand his business and two more people would be making $60,000 dollars a year and he could give his other employees a raise? That is what happens when you soak the rich, you get screwed in the end. When ever has your personnel tax rate gone down, when the Rich are taxed more? Yes, I did.......and I lost money, the government spent it, they borrowed it out of the S.S. fund, and there isn't any money left, it's all IOU note, that pays back at 1% Guess, What?, you can do that to, you can get off your ass and move to a State with a lower tax structure. And just exactly what does the fact that the Rich, live were they do have anything to do with lowering your tax rate's? You couldn't afford to pay the property taxes that the Rich pay for their homes, let alone afford the home. My, brother-in-law, is the President of a West Coast business, he makes in the Multiple Millions for his salery, he just recieved a 1/2 million dollar rase so that he wouldn't retire, he is that valueable to his company, His property taxes last year alone, where $300,000 dollars, and because of equalized value in the state systems mostof the money was spent in other school districts, on road projects out side his community, and to support people like you who are to lazy to do it for themselves. ps: My brother-in-law started out as a farmboy just like me, and believe me I don't envy him a bit, he earned every thing that he is receiving,..........except the fucking, he is getting from people like you who use the Government to steal from his pockets. You mean like John Edwards? Al Gore? Nancy Pelosi?.............and a couple of hundred other liberals, who wish to buy your vote with my money. :wallbang: The war started because a bunch of rich Moslem Gomers, decide to fly 4 Planes in to our buildings, civilian and government, and kill 2,800+ civilians. All legally allowed by legislation passed congress, to the benefit of those same members of Congress, mostly liberals, with a bunch of RINO's, and it still has nothing to due with lowering your taxes, or fairness in the tax codes, again the Millionaire pays 17 the amount of money in taxes that you do.
And they pay taxes. Don't be silly. The rich make daily use of entire ranges of government services and legal structures the middle and lower classes seldom even know about - nto to mention the acquisition of the wealth in the first place. If the rented backhoe isn't clear, think of selling a painting on consignment - the more money the painting is sold for, the higher the salesman's commission. The espensive paintings pay for more of the lights, heat, sales staff training, building and advertising, etc, simply because the seller gains more from them. The rich used the US system to get - or more likely stay - that way. That is an extremely valuable service. The US system is worth a lot to them - much more, even proportionately, than it is to the middle and lower classes. And then there is the self defense argument. . It raises the young, eases the old, and maintains the watersheds. Or they hire pros. Or they just sell and lean on the money they did not earn, use it to buy politicians and destroy landscapes. As you pointed out, nepotism injures. It will help pay for the maintenance of the country and political system I care about, and they made their fortune from. If he wants to get rich in this country and then not pay for the system that enabled him, he's just a high class shoplifter. He can keep his education, his good health from childhood, and the other freebies we staked him to, leave the money we printed and defended and the economic structure we set up for his benefit and the landscape we maintained and the political freedoms we defended for him, and move his ingrate ass to Zimbabwe where he will discover what hard work will "earn" without the community he thinks is some kind of a burden. Unless your'e slandering him, too, in which case I apologize to the guy. We all have inlaws. I haven't checked - it's not the obsession for me it is for you. I dont' want to raise taxes on the rich to lower taxes on me, I want to raise taxes on the rich to pay for the incurred debt, proflilgate warmaking, delayed maintenance, and missing ordinary features of civilization, that are burdening my community and my country. And I want to curb the growing power of large piles of money and influential wealth on the people and landscape - if I wanted to live in a feudal system, there woudl be easier ways of installing one. But as long as you ask, it occurs to me that the rich have never had their overall taxes raised in my adult lifetime. So who knows what would happen ?
No that's Democracy. One concern of the founding fathers was that we not create an aristocracy of merchants, a landed gentry like the royalists we were escaping from. That way lies tyranny. Read Thomas Paine.
