Reverse racism

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by birch, May 21, 2017.

  1. birch Valued Senior Member

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    racism is complicated. i found out that a conservative racist would not be racist to another fellow conservative racist, even of a different race as they are to a liberal. even a die-hard conservative, born and bred southern, confederate flag waving one.

    most people do not know that as they think everyone who is a 'racist' does not exercise any judgement or choose who to be racist towards but they do. liberals assume they are racist randomly across the board.

    of course not. they would be racist towards people of another race that they like the least or different in nature from them the most.

    but for a conservative, that is hypocritical but that is the very root of their values. because the reasons stereotypically cited for disliking another race is the very reasons they pick the ones of another race least like that to torture or be cruel to because it is the better people of that race (see where i'm going with this?) and prefer the worst, but that's the conservative way and they do tend to identify with the worst people generally. it's a form of spiteful competition.
     
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  3. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Gee, what a great guy.
    Your posts are obscene. Good bye.
     
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    That just shows how ignorant they are, which is usually at the root of it.

    If someone talks about "blacks" in a derogatory way but doesn't talk that way to a specific black or to a black person from a different culture it just shows how ignorant they are being.

    Timojin is being ignorant in talking about "blacks" bringing property values down when what he is really experiencing is that he lives in a class economic level part of town and now blacks from another lower class part of town (with a different cultural values) are moving in and possibly not taking care of their property in the same way that it was being done before.

    This isn't about being "black" at all. It's just that more educated and more economically advantaged blacks don't want to live in his neighborhood. This is about behaviors that you see with less education and therefore usually less economic choices as well.

    Timojin is showing that he isn't very educated and therefore probably also doesn't have the money to move where daily life in the neighborhood is what he would like.

    If Timojin moved into an upper class "black" neighborhood, they wouldn't be thrilled either and not because he is "white" or whatever Timojin is. An upper class black neighborhood wouldn't appreciate a racist/bigot as a neighbor.

    This kind of behavior can usually be peer regulated.
     
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  7. birch Valued Senior Member

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    racism can get complicated. for instance, my half-sister is half-white and she is also a conservative. Her tastes naturally are not asian in practically anything. Not all half-asians are like that as everyone is different but she literally has friends who dislike asians or look down on them.

    There are white people and then there are 'white white' people and by the latter are the type who are not open to anything of other cultures. You will not find them at chinese restaurants or takeouts or eating foreign cuisine or learning about different religions or philosophies or having friends of differing religions or even agnostic or atheist. she also does not associate with anyone significantly that is not christian and conservative. they won't even use products or brands that are not made in america or mainstream americana, that is just naturally her as she has been exposed to asian culture, food etc too.

    she has the same attitude as her father and that white is right and superior. she also looks like him too.
     
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  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Who you associate with isn't the issue. How you talk about others and how you act is what is at hand.

    You can be black and be upset with some behaviors that you observe among some inner city blacks. That's because what you are upset with isn't "blackness".

    Talking about "white people" is just as silly. As far as I can tell, Timojin is white as am I. What do we have in common? Very little apparently. Describing both of us as "white" is not telling you anything about us (other than skin color). So, why do it?
     
  9. birch Valued Senior Member

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    what i mean is that people identify with those the most based on their natures, and in the case of conservatives it ends up being hypocritical and contradictory just like their reasoning. so that is why my mother had white friends who had disdain for anything asian and ironicly were the closest to her or asian friends who disliked anything of another asian culture to an extreme extent. i've not met people this narrow-minded since being around them.

    this is why conservatives are crazy, hypocritical and contradictory. it's all based on an irrational amount of hate or condescension toward 'some' group to feel superior but they also expect liberal tolerance for their intolerance and oppression. if you condemn it, they will point the finger back at you for your intolerance of their intolerance of you. then they have friends in the world who excuse/apologetic for them as them having no choice (which really means condoning that nature) as that is just the way they are. in their world, the one who strikes first on the offense without just cause is the true winner and justified. backlash is evil. they are very tricky, sneaky, convoluted devils. lmao.

    that's what binds them and makes them recognize eachother. it's not even anything visibly obvious. people are instinctual and can recognize and intuit others.
     
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  10. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I get your point (I think) but referring to "conservatives" is just as meaningless as referring to "blacks". I'm sure you have both liberal and conservative viewpoints on various issues. Even all people that you might group together under the conservative banner probably don't all think alike.

    If you are in the U.S. and you are referring to the leadership in the Republican Party or the commentators on Fox News or Donald Trump in particular then of course we will all know what you mean.

    That's not really conservatism however. That's just the way it's been bastardized in recent years.
     
  11. birch Valued Senior Member

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    yes, it is and that's why there are people who voted for them. of course, there will be some varying opinions on different issues but the core is similar.

    you don't actually know what i'm talking about. i mean there are people who identify with eachother based on their level of evil nature literally, regardless of race. even if that person uses racism as a weapon usually in general toward others not of their superficial race. it's like proverbial devils recognize eachother just as good people do!
     
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    Conservatism (the ideal) isn't contradictory or hypocritical. Those are human traits. Conservatism itself can be fiscal conservatism, which is how most of us run our households (for example) and it is generally about not exactly embracing change, valuing tradition and generally overvaluing safety or exaggerating perceived dangers.
     
  13. birch Valued Senior Member

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    evidently that's not what i'm referring to. i'm talking about the general identification of conservatives today. identified conservatives aren't necessarily fiscally conservative. for instance, have you heard of republicans yet? and no, most people do not run their household fiscally conservatively, that tends to depend on one's socioeconomic status and and/or personality. what is your point?

    of course we know what an ideal conservative would be. and yes, liberals can also have some conservative traits just as conservatives can have outlandish or greedy traits or values. if we are talking about conservative versus decadent in it's literal meaning.

    you are taking things out of context in regard to my point. yes, please enlighten us why an individual that is anything but conservative in finances, values, and especially morals would identify as a conservative american?

    please get a clue. politics. people use politics and wolves wear sheep's clothing. today, a "conservative" republican is an oxymoron. there is a glaring example in the white house and his name is trump. he is anything but conservative in the true meaning of the word. we know this about 'conservatives" and liberals know the emperor has no clothes but we play along because people will identify how they want to identify. so liberals/democrats are what the opposite tank identifies. these are generalities as there are exceptions to every group and if you mean conservative in the traditional sense, yes, it's patriarchal, sexist and oppressive agenda. that's what conservatives push.
     
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  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    What's with the no capital letters style of writing?

    I've said enough about Conservatism.
     
  15. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    It is interesting you posing yourself as an analyst of my personality and my social position .
    You have taken my outspokenness to to enlighten on why discrimination takes place ( education and economical level ) you did not take into account safety .
    Here is something where you are wrong , my house is about 3900 sft with 9 rooms, the lot is 64000 sft. my closest neighbor is 100 ft away ( Mexican professional ) We in the family are all professionals. I have traveled in most of the European country, in 49 states in the USA, covered 80 % American continent and several country in the middle east.
    Drive a 2010 Mazda.
    Based on this information does it fits your analysis ?
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I haven't said anything about your car or where you have traveled. Your house is apparently in a bad neighborhood if a black family moving into your neighborhood is going to lower your property value or affect your safety. If you want to sell your house and haven't been able to quickly do so you definitely live in a bad neighborhood.

    I don't know what "professional" means in your case but educated people usually don't display your ignorance views.
     
  17. Equinox Registered Senior Member

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    In what way exactly does being afraid of 'God' make somebody a good person?
    Some of the cruelest people who have lived (and some who still do) have been 'God fearing'.

    P.S: Any religion that is proud of the fact it lives in 'fear' of its deity is pretty pathetic in my opinion. And any 'God' that wishes to be 'feared' is no better than a common wife beater.
     
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    I see that timojin has left us forever so there is no need reply.

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  19. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Try using Google Translate.
     
  20. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Yes it does. It says to turn the other cheek, and not just once.
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Wow.

    Now that's some consequence right there.
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    In terms of this thread?

    Judge people on how they act, how they perform and what they say, rather than their skin color, race, origin, religion, sex or sexual orientation. Treat them how you would wish to be treated.
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, let's see what Jesus said. (From what you have displayed here so far you'd hate the guy, but it's instructive to see what his views are on the topic, since your religion is in theory based on his words.)

    You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also.

    Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

    And whenever you stand praying, if you have anything against anyone, forgive him, that your Father in heaven may also forgive you your trespasses.

    But I say to you who hear: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you.​

    And if those were all too short for you, here's one where he goes into detail:

    . . The King will say to those on His right hand, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: for I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me.’

    “Then the righteous will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and come to You?’ And the King will answer and say to them, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did itto one of the least of these My brethren, you did it to Me.’

    “Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:42 for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

    “Then they also will answer Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”
    You may think that all that is being a "sucker." If so, there may be better religions for you.
     
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