Xev: Sartre called it 'cheating'. I'm assuming you've finished his eye-sore, yes? Here's about the only thing that really got me about what he said: You can graduate and take yourself out from the pool of 'bastards' by a sytematic negation of abondoning yourself to the nausea. You do this for the 'for-itself'. No more social context. No more traditions or principles. Liberty. Nothing should intimadate this according to his girlfriend, right? And its possible to do this, in fact quite easy if you hole yourself up in a fucking closet and divorce yourself from reality. But all the time you've vested in teaching yourself the SuperMan and glorifying your self into a for-itself comes down to nil...... when in public. Since I'm of the world, the second I go out into the in-itself with my brand new pearly for-itself, 'cured', there are other for-itselfs, other consciousnesesses(ahgh! odd word, whatever) imposing themselves on me by default. And by them looking at me, I'm automatically transformed back to what I was regardless of the stock I placed on transforming. I do this to others by looking at them: "By my look, which fails necessarily to attain the subjectivity of the other as such, I transform (the cheater) into a thing or an element of the world" (this is from Jovilets translation and I could kiss the man for clearing up Sartre's swamps) We're part of the the others and still bastards no matter what, and all it takes is another to carelessly look at you to put you back in your place. So......it's almost as if I'm wasting my time. You know?