Republicans just introduced a resolution to remove Mueller from the Trump-Russia investigation

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  1. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    http://www.businessinsider.com/repu...move-bob-mueller-from-special-counsel-2017-11

    So, looks like these three have something to try and hide, and have now put their necks on the block for possible sedition or even treason charges depending on what the investigation turns up (subversion of the Democratic Process would, I'm sure, be enough to have Russia labeled a "hostile state", and aiding and abetting them would, by definition, be treason).

    I wonder if these three understand the conflagration they have just stuck themselves into...

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    Yeah... probably not...
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Gaetz, Biggs, and Gohmert; we'll have to play around with the order that we might joke about a law firm from hell; Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe, is already taken.

    House Democrats will allegedly introduce Articles of Impeachment before Thanksgiving; it's not power players, so I'm not expecting much, but, y'know, you never know.

    This might be a countermaneuver, and the big danger here is, well, you never know.
     
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  5. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    The Dems - or "we", actually - need a plan for the possibility that the Republican Congress will take on launching efforts to remove Mueller as a way out of the corner this investigation is walling them into.

    If they can make the 2018 election cycle a referendum on Clinton's possible connections to a 2010 uranium deal with the Russians, that solves a lot of their problems.
     
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  7. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    All I know is that, if this happens, it should be considered a last-word on the absolute treachery of the GOP and, honestly, pretty well describes the kind of subversive intentions our forefathers warned we must defend against.

    An honest question... if open revolt were to occur... do you think We the People could depend upon the Military to back us and the Constitution, or would they back their political chain-holders?
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Is seems that the lobbying firms the Podesta Group and Mercury Public Affairs are the actual lobbyist involved. They were told that they were representing Ukraine: And neither of them registered in accordance with the Foreign Agents Registrant Act (FARA), until October this year.

    So, if you go after manafort , then you go after Tony Podesta?

    Their work included lobbying "multiple members of Congress and their staffs about Ukraine sanctions, the validity of Ukraine elections" that the reasons for imprisoning Yulia Tymoshenko, the political rival of Russian-backed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

    The indictment also revealed that Gates told Mercury, in February 2012 that it would be "representing the Government of Ukraine in [Washington] D.C."
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. A much smaller fish than a sitting President and his entire administration, and apparently not being paid directly by Ukrainian or Russian government interests as Manafort and Gates were, and lacking the extra corruption features (tax and bank fraud, etc) but something that ought to be looked into sooner or later

    So?

    Meanwhile, what we actually have is an attempt by the Republicans to prevent anyone from "going after" anybody - even the big fish and overt criminals.
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Correct me if I'm wrong------------
    Mueller works for the executive branch, not the legislative branch.
    So is this supposed legislation just smoke and mirrors?
     
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Mueller works under special rules created by a Republican Congress, in position designed to investigate the upper level members of the executive branch with relative independence. His position, via the special rules, is a unique legislative creation. His tenure in it is politically sensitive - if it were not, he would never have been appointed, he would have been dismissed long ago, his position would have been eliminated, or his investigation would have been under Rosenstein's direction rather than his own.

    So sure, it's smoke and mirrors. But that's how this Congress does everything - including getting this investigation shut down, if they can.
     
  12. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Yes. That's why Podesta has stepped down and the agency is rebranding itself.

    Interestingly, right before that story broke, there also surfaced the one about the bitter lobbyist complaining that Manafort's FARA violation is the sort of thing that goes on all the time in D.C.

    Donald Trump will drain the Swamp in a weird way. To the other, we're still fighting about a bunch of corroding barrels of nuclear waste scattered here and there, and, well, right.
     
  13. Bowser Life is Fatal. Valued Senior Member

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    three repub's hardly sounds like a concerted effort. It will go nowhere and only serves to draw attention to the man's past during his service with the fbi.
     
  14. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    It already has "gone somewhere" - and if Trump's Presidency ends up surviving, that kind of thing is how.
    If he goes down.
    If he doesn't, the Swamp stays, and government by law goes down the drain.
     

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