As already explained: lack of evidence that it is not. Until something is shown to be impossible it surely remains a possibility. One is a position on what possibly exists, the latter is a belief that it doesn't. I accept the first but do not go as far as the second. Far from it, Jan. Just because you can't grasp it doesn't make it lip-service. No, your intention to insult or not is irrelevant as to whether you actually did insult or not. You did insult, even if you didn't intend. You telling an atheist what there is or not for them? You crack me up, Jan. There is me telling you my position, and presumably because it doesn't fit your notion of what an atheist is you claim I'm wrong and that as an atheist this is what my position is. You're a joke, Jan. The thing we all have in common is a lack of belief that God exists. But you don't grasp even that. That's an argument? So now you're blind? I know what you meant, but what I offered was a clear explanation to you that your conclusion is but one that can be reached from the same starting point, an alternative conclusion that you refuse to acknowledge. If you think that that is obfuscation then I suggest you wipe the layers of dishonesty from your eyes. Red herring, Jan. And as such ignored. Just one that people could reach. I.e. you reach one conclusion, someone else reaches another etc. Surely it's not too difficult to comprehend??? So the earth didn't exist before there was life on the planet?? Or would you accept that the existence of things is actually independent of whether one is aware of something or not. Disagree that the alternative is a valid viewpoint? Or simply disagree with the viewpoint (i.e. while someone may hold the alternative, you wouldn't)? Yes, they would lack belief that unicorns exist. But they also would not hold belief that unicorns do not exist. They would simply not have belief one way or the other. We can choose some things, yes. I'm sure you would. But, as said, some people might say that because they are not yet aware of them, and because they have not explored the entirety of the universe, they can not say that they believe unicorns do not exist. They neither believe unicorns do exist, nor do they believe unicorns do not exist. For some reason you are incapable of understanding and appreciating this position. To you it is either belief that they exist or belief that they do not exist. I don't see how this comment is relevant to what I posted. Please can you explain? FFS, Jan! This is why you are considered to be utterly dishonest in discussions. In post #116 you said: "I am not aware of any unicorns existing on this planet, and because of that, I don't believe they exist, in this planet. That's my position." (bolding is mine). So for Pete's sake just accept what you have written! It is a jump, whether you feel you have no ability to stop yourself taking it or not. Other people, as explained, do not take the jump you do, whether you want to consider it a choice or not. Then view it not as a choice but as a subconscious imperative to hold a position. The issue remains: yours is but one possible position that could be held by people. You seem to be incapable of understanding or even acknowledging this, instead insisting that they do not hold the views they hold but the views you want them to hold. Please only respond if you're actually going to take this seriously, Jan. If all you intend is to nosedive the discussion as you have done to so many then let me know up front so I can put you on ignore.