Religious Pride

Discussion in 'Religion' started by jadedflower, Apr 14, 2004.

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Proud?

  1. I'm Religious and Proud.

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  2. I'm Religious but "proud" isn't the word I'd use

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  3. Athiest/Agnostic and Proud

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  4. Athiest/Agnostic and who gives a fk anyway?

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  1. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    There's something about Pride in general which I don't understand...


    but can some one explain to me how you can belief something... and then be proud of it?

    I believe in water... and am proud.
    That doesn't work, because I know water exists...

    but can someone who IS proud, and who can keep politics of the discussion...

    explain Christian, Jewish, Muslim... Pride?

    Thanks.
     
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  3. jinchilla Registered Abuser Registered Senior Member

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    Pride - One of the seven deadly sins. I don't think it's so much pride in one's beliefs as it is a sense of worth from feeling like one belongs to a group. An enlightened elite who "know" the "truth". With that application, I think it should be referred to as hubris. As in Hubristic Muslim. (Cheap shot at PM with tongue in cheek)

    Just my take.
     
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  5. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you for your thread lady:

    To be proud of something is to live it in your daily life, I am proud Muslim because Islam made me who I am, Islam enlightend my life, brought me so much joy and happiness, the more I read about Islam the prouder I become.

    You need to have basic understanding of Islam to see why I am proud Muslim, here is some sites which might help:

    http://www.harunyahya.com

    http://www.beconvinced.com
     
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  7. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    that website says I'm under a spell...

    "The Darwinists' blind attachment to Darwinism indicates that rather than having any lack of conceptual abilitiy, they are under some kind of spell"

    but thanks for your contribution.
     
  8. Padma Spankologist Registered Senior Member

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    I'm proud of my self-control. There are many people out in the world who have none.
     
  9. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    yes, but that's hardly a belief...

    i just don't understand the pride of believing.
     
  10. glaucon tending tangentially Moderator

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    Ahhh.. the Category Mistake: just because something exists, doesn't mean one cannot believe in it......
     
  11. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    okay... but would you be proud of believing in water?
     
  12. glaucon tending tangentially Moderator

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    not necessarily....but it is possible.
    example: I'm proud of my belief in an epiphenominalist stance on personal identity. A belief is a mental preperatory state, and like any mental state ( or anything one wishes really), one can be proud of it...

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  13. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    but it's nothing to be proud of

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    I'm not saying don't be proud but...

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    ... it's just weird to be proud of an opinion... you've not really *done* anything... so, why be proud? :S
     
  14. glaucon tending tangentially Moderator

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    Ahhh.. but see.. there's your error.... a belief is not an opinion... to you it may seem that someone's belief is an opinion, but not to the believer...

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  15. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    then you're obliged to believe??? force??? oh no no no... whatever happened to free will??
     
  16. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    In Pride and Prejudice the reader can observe that Mrs. Bennet’s questionable social actions (as well as the actions of some of her daughters) prove to be influential factors in the outcome of the relationship between her daughter Elizabeth Bennet, an intelligent and witty young woman with ‘fine eyes’ (pg. 77) and Mr. Fitzwilliam Darcy, a proud and seemingly arrogant young man of great wealth. Upon making Mr. Darcy’s acquaintance Elizabeth quickly realises that she is recognised only in relation to her family connections and circumstances (or lack thereof), a fact that she had been sheltered from for many years in her confined country society....

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  17. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    and your point is....?
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Read the book to find out more.

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  19. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    eer... okay....... that was totally unrelated.
     
  20. MISSunderstanding@ Registered Senior Member

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    Hello:

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    I believe occupying the land of a sovereign state is bad. I see what is happening in Iraq. I see what the aggressive coalition forces are doing in Iraq. They are killing people. I see good Americans take part in anti-war demos . I see my belief has a human basis. so I take pride in my belief.
    Another example: I believe racism is awful. I see how some people behave with blacks in US and Europe. I think blacks are no different than other humans. They have wonderfull people and there are awful people among them too. But they are not inferior. They are as human as I am and you are>
    So I am proud that I am not a racist. cheers
     
  21. Bachus Registered Senior Member

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    I think it has to do with belonging to a group. You are proud of that group because it is, in your eyes, a better group then all the other groups. Or something like that.
     
  22. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    No it hasn't! That thread has nothing to do with this one.

    This is most certainly NOT a case of any religion VS any other... or the lack of a religion.
     
  23. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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