Religious Nonsense

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  1. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    You will have to pad out your thinking. It's not clear what you are specifically referencing in biology to evidence religion as nonsense.

    And?

    If it's all about control of the masses, you would be better off arguing against the soul on the strength of the manipulation of social media ....

    Then I take it you have no problem with models of religious thought that conceive of all life possessing the same qualitative essence, ie reincarnation.

    The rise of secularism under the umbrella of the industrial revolution hasn't exactly ushered in an era of peace ... just in case you weren't familiar with modern history.
    Even if you want to isolate conflict to the ideological, the reigning champions are communists, kind of the opposite spectrum of the religious .... which in itself is quite a remarkable feat since to win that award they even had to beat the rule of averages, given that the world's population predominantly identifies with some sort of religion or other.
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If that was supposed to be a sequitur, it isn't. Saying that secularism didn't prevent all conflict is like saying medicine doesn't prevent all disease. It's the improvement that matters.
     
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  5. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    It actually has reduced violence dramatically, you can read Pinker on the subject.
     
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  7. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    WW1, WW2 and the prospect of WW3 are improvements?
     
  8. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    You should also try reading criticisms of his concepts.
     
  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Can you not distinguish between disease and cure? Wars are the disease.
     
  10. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Sure.
    If one is plying a cure, one would at least expect the symptoms of the disease to slacken.
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Have you had any wars in your backyard this week? Would you rather have the Protestants charging through one week and the Catholics the next?
     
  12. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    What nonsence.
    Its hard to see the forest for the trees.
    My list...the dress up is nonsence.
    The waffer is nonsence and rather suggestive of canabalism.
    The assertion that the NT is a fresh covenant that wipes away the earlier nonsence in the OT is nonsence.
    Hating Gay folk is nonsence.
    After life is nonsence.
    A young Earth is nonsence.
    A flat Earth is nonsence.
    Divine intervention is nonsence.
    Ten percent of your income offerred up like demanded by an extortionist is nonsence.
    That JC was God is nonsence.
    That the flood happened is nonsence.
    That Noah was 600 odd years old when he built the ark is nonsence.
    Ken Hams ark is nonsence.

    But above all to make a claim without support such as there is a God with no evidence and then to call upon those who ask for evidence to prove there is no God is nonsence.
    To pretend religion trumps science is nonsence.

    I will rest and continue the list later.

    Alex
     
  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    What exactly do you mean by this statement...its a compliment right?
    Alex
     
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  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Throwing rocks to get stoned is nonsence.
    Alex
     
  17. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Men in dresses is nonsence cross dressers excluded of course.

    Alex
     
  18. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Now you just have throw "secular" in there to make a point, although it may difficult if the USA is at the centre of your thesis (or maybe I should say "memesis" ... the notion of attributing a single, memeable lable to conflict tends to be the pursuit of simpletons trying to make runs rather than critical thinkers trying to make points).
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I bet they are provincial simpletons.
    Alex
     
  20. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    If there is a complimentary manner to label provincialism ("my backyard is good so the world is good") as an ideal position to survey a universal position, it is neither within my understanding nor intentions.
     
  21. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    In this case, they are one and the same
     
  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I love your expression.
    It sounds as if you have said something profound.
    I need to read it a few times to dismiss my original impression that you are laying it on.
    Come on now tell me about what you really think.
    Alex
     
  23. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    I thought it was pretty obvious - noting that there are no minefields or unexploded ordinance growing amongst one's petunias in no way says anything about those who do, and it also says nothing about the unprecedented hypervigiliance of the world's standing armies and their arsenals on the beck and call of nervous politicians poised to coat the planet in expensive dog poo.
     
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