Mod Hat — A warning at the outset We're going to try this again, and people will stay on-topic. The underlying theory of this topic is granting life at conception "personhood" [LACP]; it is of no use to try to justify the standard unless that justification is specifically related to justifying the implications. Those who come into this discussion looking for a fight, or trying to troll it into closure in order to suppress the discussion will not be granted the same leeway they were last time. The same goes for those who wish to litigate the abortion discussion from square one; it is a long-running discussion in political discourse, and has plenty of history here at Sciforums. Editing five hundred posts to extract relevant material is unrealistic. The posts selected for copy to this new thread are those that are on topic, or can be brought back to topic, and occurred before the general meltdown of the prior discussion. But members will stay on topic.