Anyone has any theories and why we waited so long without preventive measures? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I suggested to the Army Corps of Engineers to use a dredge to remove about 5 feet or more of the riverbed so that the river would be that much lower to begin with. They never took my suggestion and instead built a higher levee which as we see isn't working. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Actually if it's anything like most areas near main rivers, there's already preventative measures in place. It's call the "flood zone" and it designated by the Corp of Engineers as well as FEMA ....and it's intended to warn people about building and living in such areas. If people are so stupid as to disregard such warnings ....fuck 'em. Baron Max
Either that could have been too smart or they wanted to wait until the event occurs, just like our drug war, war on terrorism and our economic war.....
You don't know how drainage systems work in the world, do you? Hint: Water runs downhill ...everything would have to be 5' lower all the way to the point of discharge and beyond ...or the water would run backwards up the river! ...LOL! Baron Max
If you build in a flood plain, what can you expect. The Red River floods all the time. Its hard to feel bad for them. It would be like feeling bad for the people who rebuild in New Orleans when another hurricane hits.
Perhaps it's even better if we all just quit feeling sorry for stupid fuckin' people living where there's danger of flooding or hurricanes or tornadoes or earthquakes or snowstorms or icestorms or rainstorm or ........ Well, you get the idea. If people elect to live there, and some natural disaster occurs, fuck 'em, it's their problem to pick up the pieces. Baron Max
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A drainage system isn't a river. If you start at the beginning of a river and dredge out at least 5 feet of river botton and continue the dredging until the end of the river you will be able to lower the river very easily although the cost will be high, it can be done.
You don't think rivers drain water from the land? If not, what the hell are rivers??? Think about it just a little bit. The mouth of the river, and ultimately the water, ends up at the precise level of the sea into which it drains. From there, all the way back to it's origins, it rises in ever-increasing elevation. That's why, of course, the water runs to the sea. Yet you want to lower the water in the river? ...so it can't flow into the sea? So where does the water go if it's lower than the sea? Won't the sea flow back into river instead of the other way around?? Water runs downhill. It's something that you should consider before you post any further on this issue. Baron Max
the problem is parking lots. if parking lots were gravel then this would happen less often but then to be fair it was over 50 years ago that all of Ohio and Pennsylvania were under water.
Well, not really ...if current FEMA laws are adhered to in the designs. All drainage water, from parking lots or buildings or anything else, must be designed to accommodate the added or difference in ground water accumulation or change. However, designed properly or not, I'm fast becoming convinced that things like human interference in natural terrain is going to cause problems. Humans have fucked up everything they've touched since they began to walk upright on the African plains! Baron Max
If I remember my engineering hydrodynamics class, it is not that difficult to calculate the annual water collection in a river due to precipitation, rain fall, temperature, land contour (drainage) etc. My question is, why NOAA or one of our government agencies did not calculate and projected ahead so that certain preventive measures could be taken.... Dredging rivers is not a bad idea as the excess volume can be contained...basic physics or hydrodynamics....provided the accumulation is not left over the previous year.
Humans make things better too. Here is a link to Ohio River flood of 1937 (maybe you remember that onePlease Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ): http://www.crh.noaa.gov/lmk/?n=flood_37 is that a picture of a hosre in a tree?
So if you took a 100 mile long river that was 20 feet deep and it flooded its banks every year by 3 feet, then you deepened that river by 10 feet you are telling me that will not solve the flooding problem? If the river is at 18 feet when it flows normally then gets another 3 or 4 feet higher when it floods, then if it had a deeoper river bottom to begin with it should not have any flooding problems.
