Rebirth, Heaven, Hell, nothingness?

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience Archive' started by draqon, Aug 11, 2007.

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Rebirth, Heaven, Hell, nothingness?

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  2. Rebirth

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  3. Hell

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  4. nothingness

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  1. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    But the mere fact that I tried equals success right then and there

    And also, it means that society does not own me
     
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  3. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    why aren't there a heck of a lot more people remembering past life after past life after...
    And what is supposed to happen to children who don't have this 'awareness'?
     
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  5. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Nope: actually living forever is the only measure of success (with that goal in mind).

    Oh right.
    And you're the only person that wants to live forever?
    How does it mean "society doesn't own you"?
    Because you have a wacky idea with no practical hope of it ever coming true?
    In that case every nutter in the world is not "owned by society".
    You're in good company.
     
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  7. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    I think it means that you are deluded by your wishful thinking.
     
  8. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Every time someone sincerely tries hard to do something, they succeed

    It means that the standards of life (as in, that everyone is '''' supposed '''' to do something) do not apply to me
     
  9. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Not quite correct, otherwise the words "try" and "succeed" would be the same...

    Ah, so I was right with the "nutter" comparison.
    You have a dream that isn't capable of fulfilment and somehow the "standards of life" (whatever they are) don't apply to you.
    You think everyone but you and a rare few don't think that way (their own special dream, something "more" they want out of life)?
    Deluded, elitist nonsense.
     
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  10. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    People like you are the ones that are against change and advancement, right?
     
  11. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently you are if you want to be immortal..
     
  12. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Oops, wrong assumption - I'm one of the people that's MAKING the changes and advancement.
    But I don't do it by having unrealisable dreams or assuming that "trying" equals "succeeding".
     
  13. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    If you don't look far and innovate, what could you achieve? Nothing.
     
  14. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Looking is one thing, but it's always best to look for achievable goals.
     
  15. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    But that depends on what ''achievable'' is

    For instance, cavemen probably looked towards a new rock that can be turned into a good hunting knife, but to them, going to the moon was ''impossible''

    You dont know what it'll be like 100 years from now, our views on what is impossible will certainly change
     
  16. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    "Achievable" means "within the current limits of knowledge and technology".
    Immortality certainly doesn't fall into that category, especially as all you have is wishful thinking.
     
  17. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    It might be ''achievable'' in the future though, that's all that matters. I believe that, in billions of years, Humanity will have harnessed the power of Gods, and I want to be there!:bawl:
     
  18. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    I hope you're right.
    But I doubt you'll be there... long after your lifetime

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  19. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    Well the universe is just an object pretty much, it exists and like anything can be manipulated
    Since it has no will, our will can change it

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    Like a rock. We can do whatever we want with a rock.

    But with a puppy, we can try, but it will only cause it pain and it will fight back.
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    1. You are a manifestation of the universe, i.e., you are it as much as everything else.
    2. We can not tell the rock to be lighter than O2 - nature's law.
    3. Individual cells of your body are as much alive as a puppy is and they can fight back too.
    4. Willing to do something does not change the physical reality before you take any action towards that goal.
    5. In your case, you're just wasting our time with your incompetence. Go learn some biology towards your goal.
     
  21. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    But I mean that the fact that we have a will, we can want and try and change, means that we are in power over the universe, not the other way around

    Therefore, all it takes now is the proper knowledge and equipment to help Humanity achieve it's fullest
     
  22. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    i'm the only one who wants nothingness... but i believe in rebirth and heaven.
     
  23. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    You ARE the universe... Did you ever see a grain of sand embedded in a brick manipulate the brick ?
     

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