Reason To be athiest?

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  1. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    Belief overwhelms all else, such as thinking.
     
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  3. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    Now you very well know that the initial life on Earth is the subject, so why try to confuse it?
     
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  5. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    There can be no going on about 'God' and its properties since it hasn't been shown in the first place.
     
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  7. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    No, true and for sure.

    What do you say the basic things could be make of?
     
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  8. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    God, as a theory. Discuss.
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Please explain.

    jan.
     
  10. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    The question may simply not be valid. To date, we have seen no evidence nor come up with any model that even suggests that reality "comes from" anything. The implication is that reality "just is" and our universe may be nothing more than a blip of change within reality.
     
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    I do write fiction books, but on SciForums I stick to actual information, which there is nothing of, concerning the idea of 'God', plus I already said how it logically and scientifically cannot work. No one ever undid it nor replaced it with anything of logic or science or in any way.
     
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    Which also cuts out 'God', as then there is then no creation and no 'Creator'. So, the idea of 'God' is logically impossible.
     
  13. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    ''Within reality'' suggests a broader reality. Right?
    The ''implication'' suggests that reality is fixed. Right?
    Do you think that ''reality'' would have within it's walls, consciousness, and intelligence, as these phenomenas are part of reality|?

    jan.
     
  14. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    What, and continue to cast pearls before swine? If the hole in the logic doesn't jump out at you, then you are obviously incapable of logical thought.
     
  15. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I think you may have misunderstood the quote that's all.

    jan.
     
  16. SciWriter Valued Senior Member

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    If you go through it yourself, you may be forced to think about it, although belief could still be a blocker, since your brain wires are already grooved.
     
  17. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I take it you agree with gmillam.
    Can you please explain the gaping holes?

    jan.
     
  18. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    It somewhat depends on how you define 'God'. A person can always place it outside reality with no interest or interaction with it.
     
  19. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes (relative to our universe).

    I am not sure what you mean by fixed.

    I *suspect* that walls are something relative to our 4d universe but don't necessarily apply (even conceptually) to reality as a whole. But to answer the question, reality *does* have points of sapient life. Humans and dolphins would be examples.
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I think it depends on how you define 'reality'.

    jan.
     
  21. Crunchy Cat F-in' *meow* baby!!! Valued Senior Member

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    That is true. I was more referring to how a person might try to protect the idea of 'God' from scrutiny.
     
  22. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    God can not be seen to be not there. Think you are observing him in this very moment. According to theories God would have the power to hide from All.
     
  23. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Crunchy Cat,


    Obviously.


    Reality as a whole?
    You said it yourself.


    Do you think that reality = everything?


    jan.
     

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