Reality or Imaginary?

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by EmptyForceOfChi, Sep 30, 2005.

  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    say we were all conjoured up by somethings imagination, how are we to beleieve everything we know as existance to actually exist in the real form, known as "outside the conjouring of thought". we jusdge everything on 5 senses alone according to science is that fact or philosophy that we are infact real.




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  3. Onefinity Registered Senior Member

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    Does it matter?
     
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  5. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    nope not atall.
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Firstly I would have to ask; If we judged everything by our 5 senses alone, why and/or how would we have the inclination of being possibly conjoured up by something's imagination, what to speak of understanding existence as opposed to non-existence?

    Jan Ardena.
     
  8. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    Even if we (our entire universe) are the thoughtforms of somethings imagination, the data we receive via our senses is still valid. Our reality may be one removed but it is still 'real'. It is probability curve. There is no 100% or 0%.

    I can't find the words. Oh well.
     
  9. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    i agree but, there valid as "real" to us because everything in this existance is real to us.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Do the rabbits run away from our forms when we approach? Do the great birds fly away at our presence? They see that we are real so that would make me think we cannot be a dream for then the animale wouldn't see us at all.
     
  11. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    It's not just humans who are in the dream.
    There are no individual creatures.
    Individuality is created by the mind.
    There is only one self, but it has many bodies.

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  12. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    "It's not just humans who are in the dream.
    There are no individual creatures.
    Individuality is created by the mind.
    There is only one self, but it has many bodies."

    correct if we can see it then it would also be part of the "conjoured thought "
     
  13. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    It goes both ways.....

    I can say that the external world and the internal world are the samething, and indifferent from each other

    in other words, you can find the external world in the internal world, and the internal world in the external world, there's no separation
     
  14. Onefinity Registered Senior Member

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    No separation, yet difference. Why the (appearance of) difference?
     
  15. Arcane Guest

    The world would be meaningless of mind and matter werent somehow intertwined. However, the difference is relative depending on who you ask.

    Arc
     
  16. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    it is very serious and funny at the same time
     
  17. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    we could all be the imagination of some kind of bieng wich has a super evolved brain with wierd and strange brainwave patterns and ability to use 100% of his 5000000 mile wide brain. wich gives him all kinda of telepathic telecinetic telecanesis powers able to conjure up matter from its own thoughts, and all the animals that have been created in existance that have been extinct, the big brain guy made them exstinct in some glorious way because he was bored of them, and wanted more sophisticated toys and now we are here.
     
  18. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    and who made the big brained guy??
     
  19. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    he is god or or something lets say why not. he created himself because he too is a conjoured up thought of his own brain! and thats how we all exist i have proof but its in my other pants.
     
  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I believe that the mind is considered the sixth sense organ. Your true nature is said to be infinite awareness.
     
  21. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    when you think about it..'5 senses' is so...categorical. it is language which is really only words. is the Earth infinite for example? is is sphere shaped....i feel sense are too. there is a spectrum of sense......from say limited sense of smell to smell whih includes deep emotions which in themselves are fractally infinite....and....and we hve te interelation of sense such as with hearing colours, seeing sound, etc........which can be felt in deeper senses of consciousness
     
  22. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    I suppose that if the canvas is infinite, so are the possibilities of imagination.
     
  23. duendy Registered Senior Member

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    beautiful way of putting it.....(says the artist..hehe)
     

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