Rape in Africa

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  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    Why there is an epidemic of rape in Africa?

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  7. francois Schwat? Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe a better question is Why is the entire continent so damn backwards in regard to crime in general?
     
  8. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't there an assumption that they have the same moral values as Western societies? Until the 80s marital rape was not even recognised in the West. Its possible that they simply do not have the concept of sexual consent. :shrug:
     
  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    This may have something to do with "civilized" and "uncivilized" or "educated" and "uneducated", or cultural differences.

    It could also be that rape is a basal instinct that must be suppressed through culture and education. Take away that, humans in a gang turn in to animals....
     
  10. francois Schwat? Registered Senior Member

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    So you don't think women don't mind rape so much in Africa, Sam?
     
  11. kmguru Staff Member

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    Perhaps, it is time to teach them....

    If we can take out regimes spending hundreds of billions of dollars and human lives, just because those regimes do not have the concept of oppression...why can not we do the same to these groups....

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  12. Bells Staff Member

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    What makes you assume the West is in any position to teach them?
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm pretty sure the women in the west did not enjoy being raped by their husbands either, however was it a practice for them to go to court with their complaints? Did they even consider it rape? Did their husbands?
     
  14. kmguru Staff Member

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    The answer is:

    Africa is a begger society...without our donated money, their governments will fall...so we have some leverage. We work with them everyday...we know.
     
  15. kmguru Staff Member

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    That sounds like a screwed up logic! Are you typing this or your kid?

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  16. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    What do you think?

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  17. kmguru Staff Member

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    Poor kid...still stuck on America. It is Africa...Africa...you know the place that is bigger than USA, Europe and China combined!!!

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  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I was backing up the post you responded to:

    And why would you think that in Africa, the rules about intercourse, consent and sexuality would be the same?
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    How about if you stop using structural adjustment to bankrupt their economies, stop supporting dictators and supplying arms and start to invest in education, economic development and infrastructure. Would that be more useful, you think?

    http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Poverty.asp
     
  20. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It might have something to do with the poverty, for a start. Poor nations can't afford effective police forces. And when officers of the law (police, judges etc.) aren't paid very well they tend to become corrupt.

    Many African nations also have a history of corruption in government. Part of the problem there, I think, is that power in many parts of Africa is based on ancient tribal loyalties rather than on the concepts of liberal democracy. This almost inevitably leads to dictatorial governments ruled over by a "big man", much as tribes are ruled by a "big chief". Strength is perceived in the ability to wield force rather than in the checks and balances provided by the separation of powers embedded in the constitutional arrangements of western nations.
     
  21. Bells Staff Member

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    I did not mean financially.

    So the question to you remains. Why do you assume the West is in a better position to help them understand?
     
  22. francois Schwat? Registered Senior Member

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    I don't buy the whole Poverty Argument. I think it's confusing correlation for causation. People see that places where people are poor, there is also a lot of crime and rape and all kinds of bad stuff going on. So they connect the two. Poverty causes crime, low living standards and antisocial behavior. And hey, maybe that's true to some extent... maybe. But I think probably more the case is that there's another hidden factor or perhaps many other unknown factors which are causing it. I don't think poverty can quite explain away everything.

    In the beginning of the 20th century, were Americans rich? No. Some were, I'm sure. However, about half of them existed below the poverty line. So if you're right about poverty being a major causative force for crime and antisocial behavior, we should see that there was a hell of a lot more crime back then than there is now. After all, we're much richer now than back in 1910. But it's simply not the case. In fact, there is much more crime now than there was back then. Can't be that powerful of a predictor, can it.

    Why are African countries unanimously poor in the first place?
     
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