Example Wrong No such animal Prove patterns??? OK go ahead I Googled Universal Geometry and got at least 7 pages of spiritual guff No such animal Reality is reality, a shared hallucination is a shared hallucination Sorry started this hours ago but got distracted Guess will agree to dis agree about quasi intelliegent Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Like I said Us Minions define WHAT a PATTERN is and then find patterns in nature Suprise suprise Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
You are anthropomorphizing....... patterns exist independent of human observation..... they're called potentials. Potentials exist independent of observation.....but by their dynamical relational values..... physics. But Humans looked around and saw regularities, patterns, and gave them names; "night/day", "seasons", time.....14.5 billions years after the patterns started to physically emerge from chaos in various densities and relational values. Human Physics = The symbolic representationof inherent universal Dynamical Patterns of various values and densities . The Patterns came first,...... humans are an evolved collection of prior complex patterns of various densities and values, and evolved "functionality" (homeostasis). Welcome to homeostasis. Pretty neat pattern, no? The Fibonacci sequence, named after the mathematician's model of the universality of the Golden Ratio and it's various natural potentials and practical functionalities in dynamical physics and one of the patterns by which reality unfolds relative to, but independent from the POV of the observer.
From the site I linked; Natural patterns (patterns in nature) TYPES OF PATTERN Symmetry https://ecstep.com/natural-patterns/#
Noooooo anthropomorphising PATTEN is a LABEL Anthropomorphising is NOT labelling. Anthropomorphising is giving a non human stuff a human characteristic patterns exist independent Stuff exist in a form confirming to physics Only becomes a pattern when MINIONS decide to put the label pattern to the stuff The stuff exist ✓ the form of the stuff exist ✓ conforms to physics ✓ Is it LABELLED X Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
The word PATTERN is a LABEL. The thing it describes is a recurring regularity of some kind. Regularities are natural self-forming evolutionary organizations of beneficial (efficient) properties. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterns_in_nature Note; a pattern is not necessarily stuff. It is a recurring self-organization of stuff or measurable behavior, although most stuff of a kind has very similar organizational patterns. (The Table of elements is a perfect example of atoms self-arranging into distinct patterns, each with specific potentials.) The natural formation of the Fibonacci sequence in nature was just a matter of time. All patterns have measurable mathematical properties. MATH PATTERNS IN NATURE https://www.fi.edu/math-patterns-nature hexagonal pattern Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! https://tasks.illustrativemathematics.org/content-standards/HSG/MG/A/1/tasks/1126#
Blah blah blah Have you ever thought about how nature likes to arrange itself in patterns in order to act efficiently? YES PHYSICS Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Good, we agree about patterns then. The only difference we have is that you insist on calling it by its generic name Physics, whereas I identify the functions which produce the physics. Question: Is Time physics? Or is a pattern?
You should be aware by now from other post, my view on TIME IS THAT - IT DOES NOT EXIST Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Noooooo Have you ever thought about how nature likes to arrange itself in patterns in order to act efficiently? My answer YES The how is PHYSICS I don't insist I just call it (physics) for what it is Why? And I would have thought it would be the other way around The size - shape - colour - charge - and what ever else PROPERTY any particular (PHYSICAL STUFF) ie detectectible stuff has determines its function Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
"The world is made of patterns. The rings of a tree. The raindrops on the dusty ground. The path the sun follows from morning to dusk.” ― Kathi Appelt, The Underneath
You admit that nature creates patterns? We agree. How is secondary, You say physics creates patterns, I find that a wholly unsatisfactory symbolic substitute. It is the regularity, not the physics that create patterns, recurring mathematical regularities in nature create patterns. But we agree on the natural self-organization of patterns, without the need for invoking additional symbolic human terms, no? No, you are missing the comprehensive definitions of "patterns". A regularity needs not be physical. You are throwing specific symbolic definitions into one great soup bowl of "physics". That is a meaningless term in context of regularity. Much better would be; "ie detectectible stuff determines its mathematical function" My mantra; Patterns are a result of regularities in relational values and their associated regular mathematical functions. You want to translate the verb "patterning" (and its derivatives) into the verb "physicking"?..........Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! These patterns are a result of physicking?
“Conversation. What is it? A Mystery! It's the art of never seeming bored, of touching everything with interest, of pleasing with trifles, of being fascinating with nothing at all.” ― Guy de Maupassant
Yes and the definitions of "patterns" in dictionaries are a product of minions deciding to put the label pattern to any expression of regularities, both concrete or abstract. It is you who is altering the standard minion interpretations...Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
They look Minion made, not made by physics The way physics puts small bits of stuff together and then puts larger bits of stuff together gives stuff a FORM. MINIONS label some stuff as patterned, other forms as chaotic, other forms as irregular Can't really call physics nature Getting bored with pattens. Move on Going to have breakfast and nice company to enjoy with Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
How about these: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Trees are natural fractals, patterns that repeat smaller and smaller copies of themselves to create the biodiversity of a forest. Where To Observe Fractals In Nature: Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I know minions prepare these patterns for supper, but I don't believe that minions created these growth patterns., don't you agree? It is clear that these patterns are a result of natural (not minion) selection for growth efficiency and energy distribution. To call this physics is anthropomorphizing and missing the definition of "regularly occurring self-organizing patterns in nature". I think you get the point........Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
