if atomic structure theory was wrong, all theories about matter could be wrong. what is mass if matter carries no charge? if matter has no charge/force, how you measure it? maybe proton charge is not +1, the proton and fluid ball combined net charge is +1. we can never see a single proton or neutron, they all surrounded by fluid ball like a solid rock. mass equal to matter's force field strength. a gold ball contains more charges therefore heavier than a silver ball. when the ball moving in space, the resistance following speed, the faster you go the heavier you are.
QM atom structure suggests that atoms are like different sized ping pong balls. Negative electron orbital shell, empty space and center positive nucleus. 3 questions, how electron not stick with nucleus? Why atoms deep in Planet center not crash under high pressure? How 2 O atoms form into 1 O2 since the shell of the 2 ping pong balls are all negative charged?
http://www.nyu.edu/pages/mathmol/textbook/atoms.html http://www.abcte.org/files/previews/chemistry/s1_p6.html
Why would anyone wipe their ass with fecal matter from another animal? To clarify: I don't agree with jcc in any way, shape or form, I just found that sentence funny/dumb.
Well since our atomic theory on the structure of matter has continually been verified in particle accelerators, that makes our theories about matter fairly well spot on. But I trust you will wipe your arse with those facts and remain ignorant.
The explanation has been adequately provided by science for some time now. However, it requires three things to understand the explanation: 1. Intelligence. 2. Intelligence 3. There is a third, I know there is. It will come to me in a moment.
jcc: They can't be completely wrong, because a lot of our technology is based on our theories of matter. Mass and charge are two different properties of matter. They are not related. That depends. What do you want to measure? Are you thinking of the quark/gluon mix inside a proton or neutron? No. Mass and force have different dimensions. The mass is not directly a result of the charge. That sounds like relativity. Not really. QM is a wave picture. Yes. That's the nuclear model of the atom. Evidence comes from Rutherford's experiments and others, way back in the early 1900s. If there was no quantum mechanics, then they would. However, quantum physics prevents that from happening. It turns out that electrons have a ground state - a lowest possible energy level within the atom. And that energy corresponds to a certain closest distance of approach to the nucleus, roughly speaking. In some cases, it actually is possible for electrons to interact with the nucleus (e.g. in electron capture), but that's a complication we probably don't need to worry about for now. The pressures aren't high enough. Individual oxygen atoms have an "incomplete" outer electron shell. When you bring two oxygen atoms together, it turns out that a lower energy configuration is available if the two atoms "share" electrons. This forms what is known as a covalent bond between the two atoms, making and oxygen molecule. Both oxygen atoms are electrically neutral to start with, and so is the final oxygen molecule. Please explain what is BS about those references. I just explained it above. Hope this helps!
I think JamesR's comprehensive reply is more to educate lurkers who may be confused by jcc's aganda driven nonsense. I hope, if jcc responds with more of the same that James will simply lock the thread.
a particle has charge, mass, position. a wave is force pause transfer within a medium. mix the 2 is foolish. follow foolish science is not wise.
You posted exactly this in the other thread and I went to some trouble to answer all three questions. You failed to take up any of the points I had made and simply responded by saying - without evidence or argument - that QM is bullshit. You are an idiot.
He failed to respond to my patient explanations, either. Says it all, really. The guy has no integrity, let alone manners.
Science is awesome, especially the cosmological sciences. Science is knowledge. Without science, you jcc, and the rest of us, would still be swinging in the trees.
