It seem to me that the ID argument can be applied to the designer, then applied to the designer of the designer, et cetera. Is there a way out of this hierarchy of designers? Those who have a faith based belief in a creator do not have the above problem. For them god has always existed & created everything else. Their view is based on faith & not logic. As an atheist, I do not accept the POV of either Creationism or Intelligent Design. The logic behind ID seems to lead to a hierarchy of designers. Creationism based on blind faith (if accepted) does not lead to more questions: God did it & is too complex for a human mind to comprehend --- end of story.