Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by quantum_wave, Apr 4, 2013.
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Cheezle, When you clearly state why posts 1452-1456 are BS then we can talk, but until then you have some serious issues that need to be addressed. Your mind is playing tricks on you. Do you recognize that fact, or do you think you are okay?
Only if what they believe threatens your own sense of reality.
Motor Daddy, I don't agree with your ideas, because they do not make sense to me. I do find some of the discussions entertaining. I even find the occassion when you drop a post with some tangential merit into some other discussion.
I have found it interesting that you are able to maintain a mostly consistent argument, in the face of the well reasoned arguments of others.
Still all that said it does seem to me that the world you live in, is not the world I have come to love and understand.
Alex, this is the Alternative Theroies folder and people like James, Alpha' and others who seem to actually understand him, do drop in from time to time to interject a little of the real world.
Beside, Motor Daddy is for the most part civil in his discussion.
That was a decent interjection of humor!
This statement is something I think we all should look in a mirror once in a while and ask. Even you Motor Daddy!
So cut to the chase, address posts 1452-1456 and tell me EXACTLY where I go wrong? Do not bother replying unless it is where I go wrong in 1452-1456. If your reply is anything other than WHY I go wrong in 1452-1456 then I'll take that as a sign that you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Do not try to BS me, just state WHY posts 1452-1456 are wrong.
I took a look. That sequence of posts does not make sense to me because it does not include any explanation as to why the embankment and tran frames are both in motion...
Just looking at the posts referenced it seems to be a twisted version of Einstein's hypothetical, but Einstein went to great lengths to establish that the embankment frame was at rest with respect to his lightning strikes.
You need not try and explain, direct me back to any earlier discussion or elaborate further here.
You have your answer as to why those posts don't make sense to me.
Explanation of their motion? Do you mean an explanation is lacking as to why they are in motion? They are in motion because:
A: The platform is mounted to earth, and the earth is in motion, therefore the platform is in motion.
B: The train is in motion because it too is an object that has capability of motion in space, therefore it also has capability to be in motion in space. Each and every object can have motion in space! They all can be in motion at the same time!!!!
What do you mean Einstein went to great lengths to make the embankment at rest? I don't quite understand what you mean by the embankment being at rest. At rest compared to what?
Is 1452-1456 too complicated for you to understand? What do you not understand or agree with in those posts? You continuously FAIL to tell me WHY you disagree with posts 1452-1456. Am I to take that as a sign that you do in fact AGREE with those posts?
You failed to address posts 1452-1456. You leave me no choice but to conclude you don't have a clue what you are talking about, but rather, you have FAITH in your beliefs, and therefore needs no explanations according to you.
Motor Daddy, this discussion is off topic in this thread and I think I was in error in my earlier post when is said,
Your above post began in that vein and then degraded.
I do not wish to debate your vision of the world. Even if I did this would be an in appropriate venue.
Avatar is back to normal. The clearest misconception is on the part of those who participated in the Friday night fun and re-stated their perpetual flames about the content of the thread. I told JamesR that I would re-read the guidelines and I did, and it seems to me that this thread is exactly the kind of topic they were written to encourage.
I do think there were some personal attacks, and though I don't report them, they are not only violations of the guidelines, but of forum rules as well. Watch that in the future if you don't want to be called out specifically, post by post. BTW, everyone is off ignore and I will start a new list now. If you post disparagement and off topic discord, and don't get a response during the week, come back next Friday night for the fun. Friday night fun is always tentative, and depends on if my schedule permits.
As before, let's get into that on this thread.
That is an interesting twist on my Infinite "Spongy" Universe. I can see how you would like that concept. It is like saying that the whole is the sum of the parts. You can see a part of the whole as a finite spongy universe that expands and contracts. I see the ISU as infinite, and the sponginess is in the big bang arena landscape that is characterized by a potentially infinite number of big bang arenas in expansion, overlap, crunch, and collapse/bang modes. Thus a spongy whole infinite universe Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!.
You still are looking for the unoccupied space, but you won't find it in the ISU. However, after a couple of our exchanges I am beginning to see why the concept of unoccupied space is in your picture. Is it because there are aspects of mind and spirit that call for a metaphysical realm? I guess my saying is that there are as yet unknown aspects of nature, and that might be as close as I come to your unoccupied space.
Yes, there are possibilities.
Topologies are fun, and Buckminster was a master. have you seen this link?http://findingaids.stanford.edu/xtf/view?docId=ead/mss/m1090.xml
As for what I would think the topology of a finite universe, it would be much like I think of the finite big bang arena that I often describe; spherical and expanding. Simple, right?
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