Putting water into a reactor breach isn't a good idea

Believed? I heard that it's confirmed that plutonium has been found all around the area.

 

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At levels equal to the natural environmental levels.

And they have not yet been related to this event as they are not showing up in the water.

http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/betu11_e/images/110328e14.pdf

Panic much?

Arthur

 

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No, the workers admitted to not paying attention to the alarm on their radiation monitors.

They have already been released.
They got minor burns.

Arthur

 

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"TEPCO acknowledged on Saturday it had been aware that the pool of water in question at the No. 3 reactor's turbine building could contain a high concentration of radioactive materials.

The information about measurement findings at the No. 1 reactor's turbine building, however, was not conveyed to the workers before they started the task of laying cables Thursday morning, the company said.

If the workers had been told of the possibility that a pool of water in the building contained high concentrations of radiation, their radiation exposure probably would have been averted, analysts said.

Working with their feet submerged in the water up to their ankles, the three continued working even when the dosimeters they were wearing began sounding alarms. The workers later said they thought the dosimeters might be malfunctioning.

Hirota Koyama, deputy chief of TEPCO's Fukushima office, said: "If a system of information sharing [about the radiation exposure risks] had been properly in place, the accident might have been averted at the No. 3 reactor. We deeply regret that it wasn't." http://www.yomiuri.co.jp/dy/national/T110326003217.htm

So basically, YES!

 

So, as I said, they continued working even though the monitors were going off.

They were NOT ignorant of the fact that radiation was present.

Radiation levels can change, and everyone knows that.

Arthur

 

What is your problem? I was referring to the fact that AT THAT POINT prior to arriving to the place they were ignorant of that as nobody has warned them, only once they were THERE did their tools give warning signals which they didn't believe could be true as who would think that his chefs would send him into SUCH a dangerous place without warning them prior to that! Clearly, this could have been prevented weren't if for TEPCO's arrogance and apathy towards its workers safety. So even if the workers received warnings from their dosimeters, TEPCO still sent them there without warning them prior to that, which makes them irresponsible and unscrupulous to the core. So your nitpicking really won't change what TEPCO did.

Also the fact that you're referring to the radiation burns they suffered from as just 'minor burns' is quite simplified and naive sounding, it sounds just as if they were just burnt by a bit of hot water and everything is otherwise just fine, when it isn't. But whatever "Arthur", you're the expert here on what's serious and what's just "panic much".

 

What BS, everyone there has been working around the clock and getting this under control means moving QUICKLY and so it's not surprising that every piece of information learned isn't available to be instantly passed to other workers and so because information from Reactor 1 wasn't conveyed almost instantly to workers in Reactor 3 hardly justifies claiming that they were irresponsible.

Hardly, because no one knew the level in Reactor 3 which is why they had meters and had they listened to them they wouldn't have worked for several hours in there and not been burned.

And yes Beta Burns are relatively minor affairs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_burn#Beta_burns

They have been discharged from the hospital, unlike what you suggested in FEAR MONGERING approach to this:

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Arthur

 

A good idea?

Hi all, just registered to see what people thought of this idea.

I believe the latest problem is that the containment pits have cracked, allowing contaminated water to leak into the sea. Why not use gelatine to turn the contaminated water to jelly and reduce how porous it is? It may also reduce evaporation

 

When they drained the trenches around Reactor 2 they found a crack in the side that was allowing water to leak out and from there to get to the sea.

They were going to apply concrete to the crack to stop the leak.

Concrete can be formulated to harden even underwater.

They have secured a large hollow floating platform that will hold 150,000 tons of water that they are going to use to store the contaminated water from the reactors until a on-site treatment plant can be built to process it.

Arthur

 

The concrete apparently didn't work to stop the leak so there is a new plan to inject a polymer based compound.

Arthur

 

Sorry to hear that, it did work at the Chernobyl plant when they sealed it up.

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Perhaps there was to much of a water flow there for the concrete to set up in? I know that hydroulic cement will definatly set up in water because they use it all the time undewater.