Putin's invasion of Ukraine

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  1. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    How many people had died in the war?
    How many refugees ran away? How did the refugees survive in foreign countries? Their children no need to go to school?
     
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  3. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    There is an arrest warrant from the International Criminal Court for Putin for forcibly deporting Ukrainian children to Russia.
    That is a form of genocide.

    Maybe that is what Saint supports?

    In all wars there are refugees .Does Saint hold the country that has been invaded,Ukraine responsible for the number of refugees that have had to seek safety abroad?

    If Saint is concerned about the fate of the Ukrainian refugees perhaps she can inform us under what conditions they are living in these foreign countries.

    Are they being welcomed in Malaysia?
     
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  5. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Ukraine belongs to previous Soviet Union.
    Russia and Ukraine is one family.
    We should restore that relationship.

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  7. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Saint belongs to Putin's Novirussia.
    They are one happy family.
    We should restore that relationship.

    Saint doesn't reply to posts .What is she doing on a discussion forum?
     
  8. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I find it hard to think, Saint, is not just trolling to get a rise out of people.

    Sure, I can write a plethora of things bad about the United States but WTF would be the point? Heck at the only thing the U.S. has to do is make sure Yellowstone doesn't erupt.
     
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  9. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Since Russia claims that Kyiv is their heartland, that means the people of Kyiv are entitled to rule over Russia. We can have a fake vote for a Ukrainian-appointed ruler that doesn't get monitored or counted, if Russia wants to make things democratic like they do it at home.
     
  10. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Saint:
    Assertion/opinion.
    Attempt at justification? If so, it's circular. If not, then it's just another assertion/opinion.
    Urging people to act on assertions that are unsupported by any argument made in their favour.
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    This looks a lot like an attempt to troll people - just to provoke an emotional response using empty assertions. Especially given the information that has been provided to you previously, Saint.

    If you think that Russia has some kind of legitimate claim over Ukraine, you'd better start trying to make an actual argument in support of your claim.

    Please don't post vacuous assertions again. From now on, I only want to see claims supported by arguments from you.
     
  11. candy Valued Senior Member

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    You clearly do not comprehend the concept that the people living in a place have the right to choose how they are governed.
    The people in Ukraine are fighting valiantly to remain free from Russian domination.
    Ukraine belongs to the Ukrainian people not Putin.
     
  12. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    The former Soviet Union no longer exists, and even when it did, it was made up of individual republics. It was not a single "country" but a Union of countries. Even under the banner of the USSR, they were individual countries. So, Ukraine was not "part of Russia".
    Besides that, any "relationship" need to be reciprocal, Russia has no right to force a relationship with Ukraine that Ukraine doesn't wish to have.
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    And Malaysia belongs to the former Emperor of Japan.
    Sometimes when a man beats his wife and threatens to kill his own children, it's best to get a divorce. And when you get a divorce and that man comes back and tries to kill his own children AGAIN, sometimes it's best to get a gun.
     
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  14. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    I like your thinking! So I guess we can give US back to Britain. And give India back to Britain. And give Malaysia back to Britain. And give Australi... no, on second thoughts, we gave them all our prisoners, so no thanks... And give much of France back to Britain. I'm sure there's more to hand back, but, you know, no rush!

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  15. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    I think Rome might have a prior call on Australia.

    They could do with a few crocodiles in the Venice canals.
     
  16. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    • Controversial opinions such as this ought to be supported by some argument or evidence, not stated as if they are self-evident facts.
    New Nazism is growing in Ukraine, therefore Russia needs to destroy it before it becomes unstoppable.
    China will help Russia to curb Narzism.
     
  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Sure is awesome sexy Sexy if you ask me, yeah!

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  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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  19. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    I wish my own leaders constantly looked like they were in the middle of taking a dump.
     
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  20. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    • Controversial claims should be supported with argument or evidence.
    China needs Socialism to rule, to unite the people, to promote its own values suitable to the 5000 years of China's values and civilization.
    We do not accept everything from the West.
     
  21. CptBork Valued Senior Member

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    Ordinary Chinese people don't go to where you work and tell you how to flip burgers, what gives you the right to dictate to them how they live or who makes the rules for them?
     
  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Good for China! The West doesn't need socialism to rule, but we still use it for some things (roads, military, schools etc)
    Nor does the West accept everything from you. You can keep your Nazis and your warlords, for example.
     
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  23. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    amen
     

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