QQ, please keep in mind that you are dealing with some seriously warped personalities here. One has been slowly destroying her mind with drugs since she was 15. Another was so traumatized by bullies in school (he is clearly a weakling in both the physical and intellectual senses) that he cannot be fully rational either. Also remember that I mentioned earlier that everyone has irrational moments at times. So what these two (and others) are trying to do is take that fact and muddy the water. The first one want to claim that there is NO such thing as mental illness - due primarily to the fact that she doesn't want to admit she suffers from it. The second wants to blame the mental health establishment rather than face the fact that his problems are actually the result of his own personal inadequacies. And I need to once again state something - perhaps even more clearly this time. It is very true that there's no such thing as "normal." Yet, professionally, that term simply means "the ability to function in society without presenting evidence of chronic mental aberration." What does that mean? That anyone/everyone may, at times, exhibit "something" that might not be considered "the norm" but that in NO way indicates mental defect. However, there ARE types of behavior that are clearly abnormal - I believe you understand that. Despite the words spoken here by those so obviously impaired by their own disturbed thinking, it is NOT the goal of those involved in treating mental health disorders to drug the population into some sort of complacency. Not in the least!!!! Rather, the goal is to allow them to enjoy a better quality of life. So carefully consider some things that have been said here. And as always, consider the source and their motivations.