Psychology of Conspiracy Theorists

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It's very bad form to simply provide links without context or referent.

    This is a discussion forum. If you're not here to discuss, let's consider the matter settled.
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    It's more meta than that, just a list of links.
     
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  5. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    What do you think of these two speeches of Hitler's?
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...s Reasons For Invading The Soviet Union&sm=12
    https://www.youtube.com/results?sea...r: Explains Reasons For Invading Poland&sm=12

    They came as a big surprise to me. I'd always thought that the German people were told that they should take over Eastern Europe to expand German territory and that they thought it was a good idea. It seems that they were thinking that they were defending themselves during the war. They thought they were the good guys.

    Maybe they were lied to but the issue is what they were thinking.
     
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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    The Lebensraum idea was put forth in Mein Kampf. It was part of the Nazi weltanschauung. So the idea that the Germans would be using that land eventually wasn't common knowledge. Now, to make that palatable for everyone Hitler needed an excuse. The Soviets were obliging in that they publicly said they wanted to replace the political systems of all countries with communism. This was the "threat" Hitler needed.
     
  8. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    That might turn out to be true but the point I'm making is that the US government lied to the American people about what the German people and soldiers were thinking during the war. Every mainstream source put forth the idea that the German people turned savage and wanted to conquer territory to expand Germany. That is a confirmed lie. If there's one lie, there may be others.
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, the Nazi flying saucers, etc. BS like that.
     
  10. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Come on. It's pretty clear that the US government told us a big lie when they said the German people had evil intentions during the war. Listen to those two speeches and get back to me.
     
  11. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    As we did. And we thought the Germans were monsters, and the Germans thought we were monsters. It's called "propaganda."
     
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  13. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I'll take a look when I have time but what do you think of the fact that the US government told a giant lie to the American people? Make your position clear.

    This is some serious propaganda that the US government used on the American people. You don't seem to think this is serious.

    What do you think of the info I posted here?
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/psychology-of-conspiracy-theorists.144995/page-19#post-3480855

    If this turns out to be true, the US government gave an upside-down version of what was happening to the people.
     
  14. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I'm saying that anyone even relatively educated in WWII knew that already. Everybody told lies to everybody. This is NOT news.
     
  15. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I'd never seen those speeches until I came across those YouTube videos. This info simply wasn't available until the internet arrived. Most people believed a giant lie for fifty years.
     
  16. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    And you think the one country was the sole perpetrator of lies?

    BTW, I learned about WWII starting in 1965. The library existed in those days, believe it or not.
     
  17. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    American libraries only had mainstream info. I don't know where revisionist info could be found back then (I was only nine). Were you doing your research in the US, or in another country?

    There's some info on the American media in this post from another thread.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/we-never-went-to-the-moon.145207/page-26#post-3475851
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I had access to Indiana University libraries, Purdue University libraries, and Interlibrary Loan.

    And what kind of idiot thinks we didn't go the moon?

    Don't bother answering that one.
     
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  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    See the post below yours. We have one of those right here. I often use him as an example when someone asks "are people really _that_ gullible?"
     
  22. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    And these things just went up and came right back down?

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  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It was a hologram with big speakers. Like the planes that flew into the Twin Towers.
     

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