Prove it to me...casting call to all LotR lovers

Hmm, so LotR can only be read for enjoyment, correct? Therefore it is trash.

Compare LotR to Animal Farm, 1984, The Stranger, Death of a Salesman, Les Miserables, etc. LotR doesn't amount to shit. If a book does not tell me anything new, it is stupid.

The good versus evil template is one that is flawed; it thinks that the whole fucking world can be divided into good or evil. Goof, what is your notion of 'morality'? Just who would lay down that rule? Do you believe in absolute standards of good and evil? Do you think the world is that simple to be summarized that way by your brain, which is so pathetically tiny compared to the astronomical number of variables affectign this world?

Look Goof, LotR takes on that stupid approach. It thinks that there can be absolute standards of good and evil. It also has some explaining to do about itself; how come the majority of the 'good' are white skinned, and the majority of the 'evil' are dark skinned? And you're telling me LotR is not a fucking piece of literary shit? Wake the hell up.

 

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Books to be read strictly for enjoyment are trash? What a sad little life you must lead.

You have apparently made up your mind as to your opinion, and to the fact that any
dissention should be dismissed. That is totally acceptable. However, as you can't discuss
your point of view without resorting to inflammatory comments, I can't be bothered.

:m: Peace.

 

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Which of course is the reason that reader's polls consistitly rate LotR as the most popular book ever written.

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About the pike formation...

It was formed, but the Orcs were dazzled by Gandalf, so they lifted them up. I thought it was very noticeable? :bugeye:
But I thought people throwing little rocks at the Orcs was silly, too. And I was appalled at all the chances that Aragorn and Gimli could have been killed, but no such luck. It's impossible. And the thing with Aragorn falling off the cliff? How fake was that?

AND HOW LONG WERE MERRY AND PIPPIN RIDING ON TREEBEARD?!?! Imagine the splinters! Yeowch! lol

We are all plagiarists. Original thought is dead, and didn't invite us to the wake. You, me, we are all copies at some depth. Salute conformity.

Born unique, die a label.

Sorry for being so depressing. Cheers.

 

see that was ok when i watched it but then they lowered the pikes again so we are back to pike vs horse = impaled horse

 

It's a book of fiction. Fiction doesn't have to tell us anything. You either enjoy it or you don't.

 

Maybe they were too low because the Orcs were frightened? Because at the angle of assault, the horses could be seen easily leaping over and charging the crowded Orcs. Speaking of angle, that slope was so freakin' steep, I thought we'd see an avanlanche instead of a calvary stampede.

 

I think they sort of almost lifted their pikes but not nearly enough to matter by all logic that cavalry charge should have failed. And Gandalf didnt dazzle them, he just started the charge as the sun was rising and the light got in their eyes. Gandalf never uses magic. Frankly i dont think hes a wizard just a crazy old guy with odd taste in hats.

 

lol Neutrino

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I remember reading in the books, that Gandalf himself struck fear in the Orcs. Saruman used to be white, so the Orcs must've mistaken Gandalf as Saruman, just as Aragorn, Merry, Pippin, Legolas and Gimli did in Fangorn. It's been some time, but I thought Gandalf did use magic in the book? *shrug* And Gandalf can be very commanding when need be, as seen in the first movie when he frightened poor Bilbo out of his wits. (btw, that part was just we-ird.)

 

actully the greatest magic gandalf ever peforms is his fight against the balrog (one of his own species infact)

 

Balrog was Maia? No way, dude! That big ugly thing ... and Gandalf? Relatives? Man, talk about interspecies-relations!

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Hard to believe, huh? Oh those fallen angels.

 

yes

balrogs, wizards, saron ect are all Maia

and shelob or whatever the spiders name is, is the desendant of a high elf

 

Shelob? From a high elf? But how does the...where do the...what did the female have to...?! Fallen angels, indeed. Here it's just sheep, over there is all species. Yikes.

Wowza.

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:m:

 

the great enermy had a partial allie who turned herself into a spider

she eventually buggered off and there was a race of large spiders where she settled and selob is desended from them and her

 

Nah, Gandalf's just a fraud. He cant do anything but talk to a few animals. The only reason everybody listes to him is they see his pointy hat and assume he must be a wizard.

What did he do? He smacked an extremely unstable bridge holding up a creature that must have weighed a couple tons. It would have colapsed even if he hadnt been there.

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in the book it was a word of power he used to bar it and the bridge that stood 1000 years or more is really sturdy

 

Weren't the large spiders that Bilbo and the dwarves encountered in Mirkwood the offspring of Shelob?

 

Gandalf is da man.

 

Yes, you can enjoy it. But what is a bit of fleeting mental pleasure worth? It doesn't even last. Anything that doesn't make a lasting lesson or statement, or a profound effect on your mentality is nothing more than common Internet porn. It's pleasurable but it's not worth anything.

So far, I haven't found a single thing in favor of LotR. Any last challengers before LotR is declared trashy fiction?

Fiction can tell us a lot. Check out the Stranger. That, alone, says a heck of a lot more than LotR, and it's shorter. Possible proof of Camus being superior to pompous, tree-slaughtering, degenerate Tolkein?