Proposal: Ban fluid1959 (with poll)

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by Persol, Jan 22, 2004.

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Should fluid be banned?

Poll closed Feb 5, 2004.
  1. Yes

    5 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. Np

    3 vote(s)
    37.5%
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  1. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Fluid1959 has been started several threads all on the same topic about structures/rocks on mars. They all contain mostly the same links. He has cross-posted them between General Science, Pseudoscience, and Science&Society.

    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32344
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32170
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32323
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32286
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32290
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32280
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32002
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=32100

    Fluid has also started several two threads about structures on Mercury... both with the same exact first post.
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=31190
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=31186

    A discussion is almost impossible to be had, because the content is in 10 different places. On top of this, he has been extremely rude to anybody questioning his theory and seems only to want to post... not discuss. To top it all off, he started deleting/editing his posts which make reading the threads even more difficult.

    So, I move to ban fluid1959 for:
    Cross-posting & spamming
    Posting with no intent to discuss
    Deleting his posts when questioned

    Thank you.
     
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  3. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    I think porfiry should make it a law that only mods or him can make ban polls, at this rate everyone is going to try to ban everyone!

    Dam it what have I done now someone going to try to ban me!

    but now that you raise the question on baning Fluid1959:
     
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  5. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    I think this is a pretty clear cut case. There are several others on this forum that I just don't think are useful (MacM), but simply disliking/disagreeing isn't enough to create a ban poll... IMO.

    I trust Porfiry to make sure this doesn't become a popularity contest. Even so, the last word is always his... so the worst that will happen is that SF/OG is closed if it becomes a farce. I just hope that members don't abuse this forum.
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    I will officially ask this question here, as it goes well with Well Cooked Fetus' point about everybody trying to ban everybody.

    I've been here for four years under this handle. When I look at a poster like Undecided, and now in the case of Fluid1959, I'm wondering:

    •*Is there a time limit on ban proposals?

    Or do these topics haunt posters for the rest of their time here? In two years, as the vote creeps to 49 - 49 on any one of these ban proposals, how long to wait for the last two votes?

    This issue does fall squarely, in lieu of any time limit, into Porfiry's jurisdiction. I mean, if I were to vote to ban Undecided, and stop posting next month, would my vote still count two years down the line?

    Also, in light of the nature of the current topic, I wanted to ask a second question:

    Is SFOG where standard complaints about harassment, cross-posting, and spamming are to go, or is there a more direct method? Looking at my screen, I don't see the old, "Report post" button.
     
  8. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Porfiry did request that an appropriate time limit be set on these polls, hence the 2 week closure date on this one.

    Edit:
    Ok, here's porfiry's line...
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Ah, duh. Silly me. I looked right past that.
     
  10. Bells Staff Member

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    Sorry to say but this is becoming frightening. While I think that the notion of a ban poll is a good idea, the thought that it could escalate to the point that each time we have a disagreement with someone that we could end up being banned... well it has with it the possibility that it could be blown way out of proportion

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    I'm now waiting for my ban poll lol... the way things are going, it probably wont be long in coming

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    ... heh
     
  11. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    MY GOD WERES XEV’S!!!
     
  12. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Some of Fluids threads should be move, and edited, and deleted, but he should not be banned - that's just taking it to far.
     
  13. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    I agree.
    Being annoying is not grounds for banning someone.
    If it were, this place would be pretty desolate.
     
  14. Porfiry Nomad Registered Senior Member

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    I agree. Innocent cross-posting isn't a serious crime.
     
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