in another thread, jpappl inquired about revelation i've received regarding biblical prophecy. it was off topic in the thread, and i'm sure it will open up a whole new can of worms, so here goes... about 10 years ago, i received revelation regarding the alien abduction phenomenon. that's actually why i registered here at sciforums back then. at the time, there were people out here who discussed the topic, and i felt that i needed to tell people. you can imagine how it was received. science minded and new agers alike did not not want to hear a thing about jesus. and the religous sub-forum was born. *sniff sniff* anyway, what i was told was that the alien abduction phenomenon was actually a spiritual phenomenon, and that the alien presence would one day perpetuate the rise of the antichrist and false prophet to power, and the mark of the beast. the mark of the beast being a genetic manipulation, similar to the fall of man in the garden, that would bring about the eternal life of the flesh (in the fallen state that it exists now), and at the same time, cut off all communion with god via the holy spirit. as the fall of man (when sin entered the flesh) hindered or veiled this communion, the mark would be the final nail in the coffin so to speak, completely severing it. thereby trapping the individual in an inescapable hell (their body), caught up in cataclysmic, apocalyptic earth changes. these changes being one of the arguements in favor of taking the mark...to be able to survive and enter a new age. while i was initially out here posting about this stuff, i befriended a woman who has been abducted since she was a child. she didn't tell me that initially. she only vehemently attacked and argued with me about jesus. come to find out it's because she is a lesbian who was raised by alcoholic, abusive, and hypocritically insane religious parents. also, though i didn't know this at the time, the abduction experience that she had, had progressed over time into a deception just like what i received prophecy about, and at the same time, fed her distaste for religion. over the past 10 years, we have become extremely good friends. and through much discussion and debate regarding her abduction experience, she ended up verifying the revelation i was given. back in 2004, i went through a very weird spiritual experience myself, and during that experience i received more revelation. i was in the middle of a transcendental writing, in which i was channeling some letter to another human being whom i only know by name and profession (as they are a musician). on this particular evening i was very caught up in this experience, observing physical manifestations of the inhabitation that were extremely startling to me. but while writing, god instructed me to put down the letter and go and get my bible (that i hadn't touched in years) and read the book of revelation. so i did. when i got to the story about the woman and the dragon, i experienced a spiritual interaction that very much disrupted my reading. when the interaction was over, i picked up the bible off the floor and was led by the spirit through various parts of it like a dog on a leash. this is what the spirit told me... that i was the woman in the story of the woman and the dragon. that i was also the chosen lady in 2 john. that i was the tree of life written in the last section of the book of revelation. that the aliens were the locusts that are discussed in the book of revelation. first, regarding the aliens, i don't have a bible in front of me here at work, but they are described as being unleashed from the earth (the inside of it perhaps), and they have hair like that of a woman, and are allowed to injure mankind with the sting like that of a scorpion. i believe it says they are not allowed to injure a man's body. but if you look up the scorpion sting, it is paralyzing and disorienting, sometimes euphoric. it's actually sold as a recreational drug in western states. this sting is the mark of the beast. it says in the bible that in the last days, men will seek death and not find it. this is why. on a personal note, it is my opinion that there is absolutely nothing, short of a mass landing, that would or could ever bring about a worldwide loss of sovereignty, and the establishment of a worldwide government and religion. in regards to the prophecy that was deemed personal to me, the chosen lady is said to have children that are the followers of christ. it is my belief that somehow my experience will be verified to the extent that it persuades some people to turn to christ. i think these are the children who will be born into the new kingdom, and they will be martyred to do so. the depiction of their birth into the kingdom is the tree of life in revelations. the 12 kinds of fruit born each month between two trees, populating the kindgom. the chosen lady also is said to have a sister. i don't know who this person is, but it is my belief that she must be the other tree of life. 12 babies (kinds of fruit) X 12 months/yr X 1000 yrs = 144,000 these 12 kinds of fruit are born of 12 kings represented by the 12 stars in the woman's crown (from the woman and the dragon scripture). this woman is also said to give birth to a man child who is a king and sits on a throne at god's side. i understand that to mean jesus, who will rule the millenium kingdom. in this scripture, he is called the morning star, who will rule over the nations with a rod of iron and dash them to pieces like pottery. at first i thought that meant i would actually marry and conceive a child who is the baby jesus (again!). that hasn't happened. the child born to this woman is described as a man child. not a male child, but a man. over the next year or so, i was enlighted to the involvement of several other people. one of these people i understood to be a leader, and a king. so i concluded that this birth of a man child, was actually an identification process, not the birth of a child. recently, after residing to live alone for the rest of my life, primarily because of this experience and the barrier to intimacy that it creates (among other reasons), i have met the man of my dreams and we're not trying not to conceive a child. at this point, i'm not trying to figure it out. there's some prophecy regarding the woman that i've been shown as well. she is said to have the moon under her feet. one evening while i was walking my dog, i noticed the moon. it was big and hanging low in the sky. it was still light out, being early in the evening so it was apparent that the moon is not a source of light, only a big rock. god says to me "if it was dark, and you had always been in the dark, and did not know about the sun, you would see the light of the moon, and mistake it for a source of the light". so, he called the moon a false source of light to those who do not know the sun. this is an analogy to the end times deception of the false prophet. this woman is also said to be kept and fed, in hiding, in the desert. i equate this to unanimity, isolation, and this spiritual revelation. now, jpappl's claim is that i'm religious, and the things i believe come from the religion, or from the bible. the spiritual interactions and experiences surrounding this prophecy have involved rock stars, channeling, transcendental writing, and then these messages, among other messages that are just as weird if not weirder. my point is, that if and when i relate these experiences and revelations to religious people, they are either led to want to pray for me, or burn me at the stake, or possibly pray for me as they burn me at the stake (you know how they can be). my point is jpappl, that i in no way shape or form, read these scriptures, and deducted interpretations the likes of these intellectually. and that should be rather obvious. i couldn't have made some shit up like this in a million years. so there ya go. have at it.