Proof that God does not exist.

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Xelasnave.1947, Jan 26, 2018.

  1. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    No Jan...you guess and you guess wrong.
    You have no idea what I want...clearly you miss the times I have said I want a world without war and suffering and cruelty.
    A world that one could hope a God would deliver to the folk he is supposed to love...a world where victims get free will not to be victims.

    Alex
     
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Swan song..you call a request for evidence a swan song...what does that even mean Jan...and as much as you may say it is so there is no bucket of sand around anyones neck on either side....what does it even mean ...like so many other calls you make when you read it once you seem to make sense but reading it twice one begins to realise that you have said nothing at all sensible.
    Anyways good to see you got done whatever you had to leave to do and you are able to keep promoting this thread.
    Have a great weekend.
    Alex
     
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  5. RajeshTrivedi Valued Senior Member

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    Alex Alex Alex! I have to shake my head.
    This isn't good material to say the least..........Jan Ardena

    [Jan Ardena sounds like Janardhan. Why did you choose this name?]

    Anyways almost all the prolonged arguments on the point will reduce to God shaming, and he continues to smile.

    Another extract from my essay..

    Oh GOD, Are you there?

    So the obvious question which comes to our mind is where to find the GOD? It takes us back to the process of finding the treasure in that treasure hunt game. We use some or all our senses that is eyes, ears, nose, skin and tongue to find the treasure and of course we use our logical reasoning (intelligence) to make the next step in finding, and we may say that a person equipped with better intelligence and resources may succeed first, and the game is over.

    The point is: Is this intelligence which primarily works on our sensing of physical material world sufficient to find the God? If so then we would have found him out by now or we would succeed in finding him sooner or later by traditional methods known to us and getting smarter day by day with the advent of very high level of intelligent computers. So we can safely claim oh God, we are very close to finding you, based on our acquired physical and material progress. This instantly will prove the majestic superiority of science over spiritualism, philosophy and religion, who are striving at a much faster pace to find the God.

    Hey man? I am here?
    It is not that the God is playing hide and seek with us. This is the question which is mystifying every thinker, every scientist and every person in search of purpose of life. Why are we here? Are we created by the God? Is the universe created by the God? How the God looks like? What after life? Is there any rebirth?

    Well think physics and we fall short of answering many questions. Physics itself fails to answer the universality of certain fundamental constants, physics itself fails to answer its existence, and so expecting physics to find the God or find a method to find the God may be farfetched. Physics can find anything which can be quantifiable or observable. As soon as the observation aspect comes into picture we talk of five senses, that means anything which can be sensed (aided or unaided) through our five senses can be found out by physics. Physics is nothing but the study of matter, so for a moment if we assume that present day physics cannot find the God, then there can be very significant and revolutionary conclusions and these are:

    1. GOD is just a concept used by some nerds to fool people in the name of religion/God.
    2. Our intelligence is evolving and one day in near future we shall be intelligent enough, our knowledge of physics will be strong enough to find the God, if he is present in the domain of Physics.
    3. God is not a matter, it is something else and it cannot be found by our five senses.

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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    When you realise "faith" is mere opinion it may be less frustrating because all it boils down to is Jans inability to support an opinion...I dont see it need be frustrating it simply reflects an inability to give credibility to his opinion.

    Alex
     
  8. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Hi Rajesh.
    It is nice to see you write about such things however given God can not be found by our five senses I can see why folk make things up and that they can only guess as to the reality of God and make up all sorts of things because they really can never know anything if indeed there was a God...unless you have another sense in mind.

    I guess that is the problem I have... we know nothing and yet folk make up stuff really to suit their need of something more than their current one precious life.

    And why because a religious text is thousands of years old should we think that the author had any idea at all and was not merely rambling in a delussional state.

    You really should start publishing your works.

    Alex
     
  9. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Enjoy your suffering then, you don't want to learn obviously.
     
  10. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps he doesn't know its nature OR understand it

    Look at me I am happy. Why am I happy?

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  11. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I meant suffering is an illusion. It's theology.
     
  12. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    You got this aspect of your post correct

    As per being correct in this aspect you confirm god does not exist by virtue of the reason - concepts do not exist ie they have no physicality - they are just idea in the mind

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  13. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Have you ever taken a illusionary medication for your illusion of suffering theology?

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  14. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Then you have no evidence for it, and this thread is about evidence.
     
  15. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    I guess visitor numbers are down

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    Hey Bishop we're not sell enough holy water

    OK we'll drag out the ol' walking nun

    I'm going to hell

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  16. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mene mene tekel upharsin.
     
  17. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Ever notice there's no huge pile of artificial limbs at Lourdes?
     
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  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    BTW, the best place in the world to contemplate the value of religion is a FOXHOLE.
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you for piling on the proof that God does not exist...
    I was watching stuff on the first world war and I could not help but think if there was a God who gave us free will you would think seeing the absolute horror and senseless loss of life and the horrible life changing injuries a God of any capacity, morality or decency would have taken the free will gift back ...
    Surely that is more proof that there is no God who gives a fig about human suffering...oh thats right suffering is an illusion..
    These religious folk its like they have had part of their brain fried preventing rational judgement...how long will humanity fall for this superstitious crap...

    I like cage fighting..in one fight the fighters second was his brother...during the rounds the brother gives excellent advice to the fighter.."Just trust the lord he will show you what to do"...well the lord stood by and let this guy get the crap punched out of him.

    What stupidity.

    Why would a God favour one fighter over another...the sheer arrogance of these dingbats is unbelievable...

    Then they talk down to people like us who dont get sucked in saying we would not understand...arogance and ignorance in an untidy confused bundle.

    I have been reading proverbs in the bible ...if the fire starts again I have some really funny and absurd passages that I guess your average theist would have to call idioticly stupid...but used in reply would be so funny.
    They want religion I can find a religious answer for anything.

    There is much on fools...judgemental twits.

    Fight fire with fire (biblical quotes of nonsense) will be next and it will be hilarious.

    However I am going bush for a couple of weeks of astronomy so can you keep an eye on things an keep those who want concepts to be real reminded that thinking about something will not make it become real.
    Praying=talking to something that is not there without realising you have problems with delussion that cause you to substitute ancient unsupported superstition for reality.
    Alex
     
  20. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    This miracle business is just that..a money making damn wonderful business.
    Minimal overhead and clients who believe anything with out proof but happy to pay.

    Why dont we get a miracle like an earth quake to stop ww 1 or ww2 ... and this saint stuff..it would be funny if it wasnt.

    What do people lack that this nonsense is still around in this modern and informed age...its a worry...I walk down the street and wonder is that one... could they do something crazy because God told them...

    Anyways thanks for your support your on the mark observations are appreciated.

    Alex
     
  21. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    For which you take homeopath illusion medicine

    That's because the Lourdes guardians recycle them back to the hospitals to ensure more visitors

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  23. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I hope Trixon doesn't see that.
     

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