Proof of the supernatural

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  1. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Eyewitness account of the event by 4 rescue workers is solid evidence. Anything else you wanna make up about it? Or are you done here?
     
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  3. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    It's only evidence that they're claiming that they heard something. It's not evidence that there really was a ghost.
     
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  5. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    That isn't evidence of anything paranormal - again, that has several far more mundane and scientifically backed explanations... unless you can provide some actual evidence, then yes, we are about done here
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Dolphins are natural, they exist, there is no evidence that anything supernatural exists.
     
  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Nope..the evidence for the paranormal is indisputable and clear.
     
  9. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Given your desire to have the rules upheld in a more literal understanding -

    you will, of course, show why it is impossible for this to have been any number of more mundane explanations given here. I want medical records, psychological profiles, background checks, etc
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    The people who actually heard the voice is evidence enough. You have nothing but spurious claims about ambient noises, schizophrenic voices in the head, and ulterior motives by the rescuers to make the local headlines. IOW, nothing at all. The story stands as a testament to the remarkable power of a mother's love to hang around 14 hours after she died to help her dying child get rescued. It is an inspiration and witness to miraculous nature of our reality and the infinite possibilities that lie within it.
     
  11. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    That burden would be on you--the one making the claims that it was a mundane factor instead of a real voice. So get to work. I'll wait...
     
  12. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, not how this works - you are claiming it to be supernatural instead of one of the plethora of natural occurrences - that places the burden of proof on you. After all - extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
     
  13. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    My evidence that it was a real voice of a spirit is the testimony of the 4 rescuers. That and then them finding the mother in the car already dead. Where's your evidence that it was a hallucination, schizophenia, or ambient noise? That's YOUR claim. Now support it. Medical records? Audio? Still waiting...Tick tick..
     
  14. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    You would have to rule out all possible naturalistic explanations before your theory is at all plausible, and you haven't.
     
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Again, that's not how science works. Several probable (and scientifically sound) explanations were given - you claim them to be impossible or incorrect despite common knowledge. Thus, it falls to you to show why the mundane cannot be and thus why an extraordinary explanation is required.

    Welcome to Science - the standard to which your posts will be judged, as are the posts in the true science sections.
     
  16. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Again, that's not evidence of the existence of ghosts, it's just evidence that they claimed to hear something.

    There's just as much evidence that what they heard was aliens.
     
  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    All speculations of someone who wasn't there. Why are you making claims you have no evidence to back up? Tick tick...
     
  18. garbonzo Registered Senior Member

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    Why would "the entire natural order" have to be suspended?
     
  19. garbonzo Registered Senior Member

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    It could be aliens. All we know is that the voice was real.

    Talking dolphins are natural?
     
  20. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    indeed tick tick - you have a deadline to prove or retract your claim, per the site rules.

    the only claim I have made is that there are far more mundane explanations for this - a claim that myself and others have provided plenty of evidence for.
     
  21. river

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    Ghosts and the like , the supernatural , never seem to be investigated in the real world by any disbelievers

    One wonders why ?

    There are many very haunted places to experience , and not for a day but for at least a week
     
  22. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    never is a big word... a quick Google search turns up plenty, such as this


    http://thebentspoonmag.com/2013/10/22/a-compilation-of-paranormal-skepticism/
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You made claims based on no evidence whatsoever. They didn't even make sense, as if hallucinatios could be shared by 4 people. As if paradolia can occur from a car that is making no noise. Now you are claiming I of all people have to provide evidence for your claims being false?
     
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