"The actual definition/attributes of God"? Where does this supposedly definitive definition come from? How does one distinguish between whatever you believe is the correct definition of the word 'God' and supposedly incorrect ones? What does it mean, what are you asserting, when you say that something is the "actual definition" or that it expresses the "actual attributes" of God? It seems to assume that God really exists, in order to possess "actual attributes". And it seems to assume that somebody out there already has authoritative knowledge of what God's "actual attributes" really are. You suggest very strongly that you are part of that divinely favored group. I hope that you are capable of seeing that in the context of this 'proof of the existence of God' thread, to spin "actual definition" as you seem to be doing would beg the whole question and reduce the discussion to circular reasoning. Even Pachomius never made the elementary logical mistake that you seem to be making. He proposed his own concept of 'God', "creator and operator of the universe and everything with a beginning", not as the uniquely correct description of God's "actual attributes", but simply for the purpose of discussion. In other words, anyone who doesn't agree with Jan Ardena's never-clearly-explained personal theology must be dishonest.
I did explain it as a perversion of the natural human tendency to find agency in events, because if you can figure out why something happened, you have a degree of control over it. If you find animal tracks in the sand, you conceive of the animal that made it, and conceive of a plan to track it down and turn it into dinner.
Great. Can you tell me how you know? And if are just copying what someone else said, can explain how they know. Thanks in advance. Jan
I know. But it can't be reconciled with a God that cares about people. God is either evil or indifferent to our suffering.
SP, What do I call knowledge? No it's not. Read some scriptures. No it didn't. That's just crap you feed yourself to make yourself feel good about the lies you live offa. I don't share your dogma. It looks like you're going to have to spoon feed me the information on how they know their findings are actual as opposed to guesswork. Your opinion is duly noted. I didn't say they did. Why are they? Irrelevant. We're discussing w whether God was born in the mind of man. So far it doesn't look like it. Snake, serpent, reptiles, seducer, enchanter, etc... There are lots of differing concepts, but they are simply variations of the knowledge of which you have no idea of it's origin. Unless you can support your beliefs, knowledge/information of God remains a natural phenomena that happens to be present like all other natural phenomena. No you just claim knowledge of all events that occurred from the beginning of time, plus read all minds. Not delusional at all, are you. Jan.
If it's taught in college then it will be on the net. I'm willing to bet you're not going to post any links. Jan.
You know nothing of God. The evil people are blind like you and they know not what they do for they are false to themselves.
The one thing this thread demonstrates remarkably well is that it's pointless to try to have a rational discussion about an irrational subject.
Right you are. You are thinking using facts and logic. This is why you are in no way mistaken, Daecon. That was halarious, I almost hit like on your post, oh maybe it was another one but... seriously, a God must exist because you would never be able to be as assertive as you were here Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
God is in the heart of beholder. no hearts are the same, even twins. for those have God, have peace. otherwise, wrong believe.