# Profit from sin

Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by arauca, Aug 25, 2013.

1. ### araucaBannedBanned

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Some argue that state governments should not profit from residents’ vices. However, some states rely on these activities for a substantial proportion of their budget. In Nevada, “sin taxes” accounted for nearly 6% of the state’s revenue. Based on data from the Census Bureau and the American Gaming Association, 24/7 Wall St. identified the states where the largest percentage of revenue came in the form of proceeds from alcohol, tobacco and casino taxes, as well as the lottery and state-regulated liquor stores. These are the states profiting most from sin.

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Excise taxes on tobacco are among the most politically charged and varied in the country. While Rhode Island charges $3.50 in taxes per pack of cigarettes, states like Virginia and Missouri charge less than$0.50.

Frequently, consumption is higher in the states making the most from sin taxes. For example, many of the states that profit the most from sin rely heavily on tobacco revenue. While tobacco tax rates are relatively low in some of these states, sales are higher than the national average. In fact, the states with the highest taxes for alcohol and tobacco do not necessarily bring in the most money.

Relative to some of the other sin-related sources of income, taxes on alcohol are not a big source of revenue. However, some state governments opt to control liquor sales, which can involve regulating stores and collecting commissions. In others, it can even mean warehousing and selling the liquor directly to consumers. In New Hampshire, state-controlled liquor sales accounted for 1% of the state’s income.

While alcohol and tobacco are factors in some of the states that profit most from sin, gambling is almost always a much more significant source of income. In five states, casino tax revenue accounted for more than 2% of state revenue.

In Nevada, not surprisingly, it was nearly 5% of revenue. Lotteries were also a major source of income. The Rhode Island, Delaware and West Virginia Lotteries all brought in well over 3% of state income. The reason for this, according to the American Gaming Association, is that these states operate and own all commercial casinos in the state not run by Native Americans.

12. ### billvonValued Senior Member

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He got what he was promised. So did you. That is fair.

He got what he was promised. That is fair.

13. ### spidergoatValued Senior Member

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Public workers usually make far less than the average wage for that job, the benefit is usually a guaranteed pension. It's the least we can do.

14. ### araucaBannedBanned

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Why the pay should and benefits should be that high , that comes out of the real estate tax, and every year is highr because of percentage and all them get the raise among civilian is more on merit scale and not union pressure .

15. ### araucaBannedBanned

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Beside public workers get a pension after 30 years work and military after 20 years service , then the come in with the double dipping .

16. ### KitemanSARegistered Senior Member

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If you spend the day running into burning buildings or chasing after folks who are shooting at you, then I will listen to you bitch. Till then, stuff it!

17. ### KitemanSARegistered Senior Member

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FedGov civil service can't "double dip". The military can, but again, spend your day putting your life on the line in s#!tty conditions...

18. ### Janus58Valued Senior Member

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In addition, while some state and local civil service employers do allow "double dipping", there are limitations. Many times it is without benefits (medical etc.)and at a lower pay rate. And if nothing else, the employer is no longer making payments to the pension plan on the employee's behalf. IOW, It usually costs the employer (and thus the tax payer) less to allow it than it would to hire someone new to replace them, and they get someone with experience to boot.

19. ### araucaBannedBanned

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Please don't give me this sabb story , There is no fire every day nor every week , depending the district. They work only three days a week , you choose the job because you enjoy it . I have exposed to chemical on daily bases for 40 years so what, that was the job I chose.

20. ### araucaBannedBanned

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As a kid you probably dreamed to be a fireman , so enjoy it , don't cry how dangerous it is . there are more causality in other jobs then among fireman.

21. ### Fraggle RockerStaff Member

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The most dangerous job in the world is President of the United States. Nine percent of them (8 out of 44) have died on the job (i.e. during their term in office). This is a higher rate than spies, soldiers, police, firefighters, stunt pilots or human cannonballs.
• W. H. Harrison
• Taylor
• Lincoln
• Garfield
• McKinley
• Harding
• F. D. Roosevelt
• Kennedy
Four were assassinated: Lincoln, Garfield, McKinley and Kennedy.

Probably the only "job" with a higher fatality rate is, by definition, suicide bomber.

22. ### billvonValued Senior Member

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I volunteer in my community on things like disaster relief, homeless shelter fundraisers etc. Why shouldn't I get more money than you? I'm helping people.

23. ### araucaBannedBanned

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Good for you for been useful . I volunteer my time also with inmates in maximum detention prison, very dangerous job. So what, that is my choice