Presidential debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Seattle, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Why would Trump give a lucrative position as virtual Secretary of State to someone who's only qualification is being the President's son, if they not expect they could use it for "pay to play"?

    Get real candy!! You have become a gullible victim of the greatest scam ever perpetrated on this Nation, by a delusional Reality TV show host, who's only qualification is as Carnival Barker.

    For once, listen to Obama, one of the great Presidents who's qualification was well established by his prior record of service to the Nation and the people had the good judgement and fortune to elect.
     
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  3. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    jesus christ the only sources i can find saying the new york post story is not russian disinformation is the new york post. seriously whats wrong with you
     
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  5. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    This is all they have.

    There is actually the weirdest gay joke wrapped up in all of it. No, not really. But two people who believe the story are Glenn Greenwald and Rick Grenell; both happen to be gay. Whatever. Seriously, though, Greenwald is in rare form, which, if you've witnessed his high twitness, you already know is an extraordinary sight. Meanwhile, when Post op-ed editor Sohrab Ahmari lashed out at other news agencies after the paper's bombshell blew its smoke, former Acting DNI, and current Special Envoy Rick Grenell used the occasion to swing at Andrew Kaczynski, in some personal beef, in order to denounce the CNN reporter as the leader of cancel culture (yes, really) and message against Joe Biden.

    Also, can grown-ass professionals please stop abusing the verb, "do"? Why isn't someone "doing journalism" on your favorite scandal? Well, phuck, Rick, let's drop everything and not stop vivisecting the Post debacle until there's nothing left to cut; let's see how happy your messaging about Joe Biden is, then.

    Oh, right.
     
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  7. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well the last debate is over. Most polls show Biden winning. Hannity, of course, found one poll that said Trump won and that's all the right is talking about.

    But it doesn't really matter. Trump is ten points behind. He needed a miracle, like Biden repeating himself or saying something completely nonsensical, to move the needle. And that didn't happen. No one undecided is going to watch that and say "geez, Biden's senile!" or anything. So overall it didn't do what Trump needed it to do.

    And in some respects it's too late anyway. Over 30% of the votes have already been cast for this election - and they are primarily democratic and independent voters who are taking COVID-19 seriously. In many swing states over half the votes have been cast. And those are the people that Trump has to move with a debate performance (or yet another October surprise,) Looks like the Tony Bobudonuts attempt isn't going to have much of an effect, because nothing Trump will do will change the mind of the late voters, who are primarily his core.
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    You are so correct, it's all about the sales spiel, the debate performance. Forget the performance of substantial implementation of the promises made during the sales spiel.

    Never promise what you cannot deliver, unless you are a con-man.

    For 4 years Trump has made promises that his "Great America" is just a few weeks away, and the current problems are all a leftover result from the previous administrations from 4 and 12, years ago.

    p.s. About Trump's claim that the cages were installed during the Obama years. He forgot to mention that those cages were for incarcerating drug-smugglers and coyotes, not the innocent children.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...ump-and-biden-square-off-on-immigration-video

     
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  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Speaking again as an outsider, I hope you are correct, for the sake of the USA.
    I'll wait for the fat lady to sing.
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    "This ain't the first time you've been wrong, and, most likely, won't be the last.
    (mind your sources)

    THE FACTS: The photos, taken by The Associated Press, were from 2014, during the Obama administration, but were presented by liberal activists as if they showed the effects of Trump’s immigration policy now. Villaraigosa, Favreau and some others deleted their tweets when the mistake was pointed out.

    They had linked to a June 2014 online story by The Arizona Republic titled “First peek: Immigrant children flood detention center.” The story featured photos taken by AP’s Ross D. Franklin at a center run by the Customs and Border Protection Agency in Nogales, Arizona. One photo shows two unidentified female detainees sleeping in a holding cell. The caption refers to U.S. efforts to process 47,000 unaccompanied children at the Nogales center and another one in..."
    from
    https://apnews.com/article/a98f26f7c9424b44b7fa927ea1acd4d4

    and here is a link to the original story:

    "They are undocumented. They entered the country illegally. And when they were apprehended by U.S. Customs and Border Protection, they were shipped to Nogales from overwhelmed processing facilities in Texas.

    But they are still children in cages, not gangsters, not delinquents. Just children, 900 of them, in a makeshift border-town processing center that is larger than a football field. They pass the day sitting on benches or lying side by side on tiny blue mattresses pressed up against each other on nearly every square inch of the floor in the fenced areas.... "
    from
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/new...mmigrant-children-holding-area-tour/10780449/

    As previously stated:
    Every 4 years, we have a seemingly contagious outbreak of mass insanity, gullibility, and stupidity.
     
  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I do mind my sources, but in spite of your gratuitous ad hominem, apparently you do not .
    https://apnews.com/article/2ebfa802626241b187315f1cccf37996

    There is nothing wrong with building temporary "holding pens" at the border for criminals or illegal adults.

    Note: I did not say Obama used cages for children. (that's your kneejerk association)


     
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  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I never posted that you said Obama used cages for children.
    The linked AZcentral newspaper said that in 2014.
     
  13. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    If you didn't then what's the problem? The AP Fact Check link is from 2019
     
  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yep. Last time it resulted in Trump. Hopefully this time the results will be less destructive to the US.
     
  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    When the AP found out that a con artist had plagiarized their pictures claiming them to be something that they were not in an attempt to con the gullible, the AP published their fact check.
    Responsible journalism------ how peculiar.............
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Should get on the horn with the NY Post and remind them of what that is.
     
  17. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I wonder how many different ways people say----make a telephone call
    get on the blower
    ring up
    dial up
    etc.............etc.................etc

    I would hazard the guess that there are hundreds(thousands) of different ways if saying the same thing??????????????
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Sure, but unless someone understands the slang of your area, they won't have a clue what you're talking about. "Get on the blower" could mean all kinds of things.
     
  19. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Nobody knows whether they entered the country illegally.
    Entry as a refugee seeking asylum is legal. Documents are not required.
    Many of the children caged by the Republican administration had been accompanied, originally. They were separated from their accompanying adults (including parents) and caged as a matter of deliberate and intentional policy ( Steven Miller, an official in the Trump administration, promoted this tactic from early in his tenure) - thousands of them. The Republican administration then apparently lost track of the adults and the identities of the children - apparently many of the adults involved were deported and lost, and several hundred of the children were put into foster care or other supervision without tracking their fates or identities.

    This was of course what the 73 million Republican voters voted for.

    The incoming Biden administration is promised to make serious efforts to reunite the separated children with their families if possible.
     

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