Presidential debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Seattle, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I couldn't watch most of it but the Biden quote that summarized it for me was "Will you shut-up man?"

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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, he certainly has the neo-Nazi / white supremacist vote in the bag.
     
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  5. river

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    Biden was weak . His ideas are sound , but trump drowned him out over and over again .
     
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  7. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    The Forest Warden vote may be split, more jobs, stupid jobs raking the forests.
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I'm going to go with the guy with the better ideas every time.
     
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  9. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    If Biden wins, expect two more US-supported terrorist wars, and no war ending. Simply by extrapolating from his record as a vice president.
    If Trump wins, there will be no new wars, simply extrapolating his first term.

    The good thing about Biden is that he is corrupt. Beyond the Ukraine, China has already been able to buy him, so one can expect to trade war with China.
     
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  10. Bells Staff Member

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    They are already changing their logo's and are saying they are ready and waiting on twitter..

    Sorry.. On "stand-by"..
     
  11. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    "C'mon, man"

    "Will you shut up, man?"

    "You're the worst president America has ever had. Come on," Biden said

    6 takeaways from the off-the-rails first debate between Biden and Trump

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/30/politics/trump-biden-first-debate-takeaways/index.html

    From CNN

    Not checked Fox yet

    "C'mon, man". Biden seems to be stuck in the 60's. I don't expect him to be all woke (stupid expression) to the language of the day but "C'mon, man" is for me going back to far

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  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I think when Biden spoke to the camera on covid 19 over Trump's balderdash of comments was the best.
     
  13. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I think you should fuck off back to your St Petersburg troll farm.

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  14. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Why is it the opposition leader in Russia was poisoned?
     
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  15. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    "man"? He must have misspoke.
     
  16. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    It is not even clear if he was poisoned or not. If he was poisoned, "cui bono" will show you suspects.

    Putin has no motive at all. Nawalny was, from point of view of the Kreml, a very good leader of the pro-Western opposition. He has reduced it by factors, it is now around 2% or so. When he started, he made 27% of the vote in Moscow. Now the pro-Western opposition does not even have own candidates, but supports candidates of other opposition forces like the Communist Party or so, thus, is almost non-existent.

    Moreover, his strategy to organize demonstrations was very good for the law enforcement. To present himself as a fighter with the regime, he needs illegal demonstrations, so that there is at least some conflict with the police, so that the Western press can write about this. But the law for demonstrations is very liberal, all you need is to announce the demonstration. All the administration can do is to reject the place of the demonstration, in this case a replacement has to be offered. So there are two ways to make the demonstration illegal: Not to announce it, or to announce it at a place where it will be rejected, and reject the alternative place, and simply do the demonstration at the rejected place. Both methods have been used. The Western press was quite comfortable with this, and all these demonstrations, usually with some 10000 or less in a city as big as Moscow, were presented as heroic fights for freedom by the Western press. What made this comfortable for the Russian LEA was that this gave them the possibility to establish the personal data of many of the participants. Among them are a lot of schoolboys, and once they do illegal things, schools and juvenile protection agencies have a reason to look at the problems of these kids. All this is quite obvious, and many commentators in Russia have already asked if Nawalny has been bought by the Kreml or so.

    So, the Kreml certainly does not want to have Nawalny replaced by somebody else, some unknown guy who may start something new, more successful, and not that comfortable for the Russian LEA.

    Who may be interested in getting rid of Nawalny? Of course, all those in his environment who think they could replace him as the leader. And, of course, Western intelligence agencies, given that they are not stupid and understand very well that Nawalny is far from being successful. If one looks at the reactions - the pressure on Germany to stop Northstream II to punish Russia for this - gives a quite strong hint. So there are enough plausible suspects.

    The other quite plausible theory is that there was no poisoning, but a personal health problem of Nawalny. Simply adding some Novichok or so to something in Germany would be no problem for some Western intelligence agency.
     
  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    That's awesome.

    Good to know.

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  18. Janus58 Valued Senior Member

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    I read that they are considering what measures to take in order to control the next debate better.
    My suggestion: Put Trump in a sound proof box. Pipe in the audio from the moderator's and Biden's mikes, and keep Trump's mike shut off unless it is his turn to speak.
     
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  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    curiouser and curiouser
     
  20. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Really? I thought Biden showed great control and restraint. Personally, I wanted to slap Trump upside the head and tell him to SHUT THE F@%$ UP!
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not any more. He had one, of course - dominance. Mob boss has to keep everyone on their toes - make sure the threats are feared.
    Extrapolating from Biden's VP tenure we will get no new wars and a restoration of the Iran nuclear treaty.
    Extrapolating from Trump's Presidency we will get blowups in Kashmir and Korea, including threat of nuclear exchange.
     
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  22. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    How come we get such a crappy Russian troll! I think it is a little insulting to the sciforums.

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    How about you try a little harder, your propaganda is really really poor and it makes us think you don't respect our intelligence.
     
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