Then why did you threaten to close to my thread. Are you the only poster in this forum with something to say on this topic? Your insinuation that I'm stupid or have ADD is noted. Do you think this sort of personal insulting makes you the kind of person I want to correspond with? Oh? How often do people do that kind of thing to you? Maybe you should take that as I sign to be more concise and to the point. Like me. You are the one that has been cherrypicking the accounts to support your assumption that it was a light in the sky, a helicopter, or whatever new thing you are trying to dismiss it as. That requires denying the evidence of the account itself in it's particulars. Denying it was as big as a house, that it was 300 ft in the air, or that it hummed like a transformer. All you have been doing is denying details of the accounts in order to support your conclusion that it couldn't possibly be a ufo, which in fact all the evidence points to. Then why are you assuming this sighting is not of a ufo as witnessed and photographed thousands of times all around the world? You're going to tell me what I believe now? lol! No..it was a shitty analogy only proving further the absurdity of dismissing 4 eyewitness accounts of the same event. It failed miserably. Oh, so now we go from the shitty analogy of me being seen to fall in the pool by 4 eyewitnesses to the weighted analogy of a magic trick deceptively performed by a magician. Am I to assume here that you believe this sighting involved some sort of elaborate illusion performed by some hidden magician? You must because that's the only way this analogy would apply. They are all independent in their moment of witnessing the event. Each sees it with their own eyes without being told or suggested anything. An audience knows it is a trick. They don't believe what they saw at all. No..I'm saying it is a ufo precisely because there is no known mundane explanation for it. None of them fit at all. And you torturing the accounts to squeeze out something other than a ufo demonstrates this perfectly. Everybody starts with the assumption that the magician is doing a trick. That's why we pay him money. To show us his tricks and to bedazzle us. Because UFOs exist as witnessed and photographed thousands of times all over the world. The evidence all points to it being one of these. UFOs were being spotted in the 1940's before there were any movies and stories about flying saucers. Hollywood invented the lore based on the actual accounts of ufos. They were in our skies long before they were on our theater screens. I already told you there's no such thing as just a bright light in the sky. It's got to be an object emitting that light or reflecting it from another source. Light doesn't just float around in the sky in elliptical or saucer shapes. The account says the object became so bright it illuminated the whole area. It could easily be estimated in size and height at that point. Right..I'm not going to pretend to not know what the moon is just so your analogy works. You really should take a course in analogy construction sometime. You suck at it.