All the data on all the cases I've posted is readily available online to anyone with the gumption to research it. The fact that you couldn't even do that and just whine and complain about them being documentaries shows me you aren't serious about studying this and so really have nothing credible to say about them. You never do. You just claim everything is faked and that's supposed to hold water. It doesn't. You haven't debunked a single account I've given yet. And that's your problem not mine. Better hurry up and debunk that helicopter encounter now before I post another one. Lord knows we wouldn't want to tax you too much. lol!