spidergoat i agree with your comment, the reality of the comparison is in the mind of the observer, when it is derived to a state of porn, if someone has been around women long enough they will know they find interest in watching sports men (good looking fit well muscle toned) as well as enjoy the socialisation of the event *genralising Hastein i think you are on to a track that holds merit but i wonder how much you have considered that women are yet to find balance from the years of in-equality that is still present in parent to child verbal teaching and mannerisims, and .. all religions have parts that are progresive and regressive and stagnant, you may be better served to look at population numbers in certain countrys than ficus soley on one particular religion, as communities in genral collect in ways to find common ground be that prescibing to some mild notation of religouse labeling or non what-so-ever. take another step back then look at it again from a further distance. when talking pornography as someone mentioned sorry i cant recal of hand, YOU MUST devide it from abuse, as abuse is always abuse and is there for not pornography. Just because some person is disfunctional enough to find plesure in some type of abuse does not mean that form of abuse is then grouped as pornography. we should look to the non abusive example to define the name and the perameters. Hastein a better place to give guidence for your theory on socialisation would be in deeper issues that are founded in social trend , defined by nurture and learning trends as well as normal social backlash to extreemist concepts. we need to stop allowing people to teach children that they should be ashamed of their body or of sexual activety, it creates a great deal of social disfunction, and spawns many mental health costs and sociatal costs in lives and billions of dollars in policing and health care. from deseases to rape and assualt and stalking its an evolutionary stage we are slowly becoming aware of as a civilisation Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I like to view porn, so I support it. It's quite simple for me. No need to create some fantastic and outlandish arbitrary and entertaining morality principle out of hot air to make my case.
I once watched about 3-4 hours worth of that stuff (jap'nese anime) and after that I was absolutely regretful that I had done such a thing, it felt like I had lost my innocence. I'm not even 18 btw.. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Thing is I couldn't help it while I was uhh viewing, I was aware of all the religious conflicts and my conscience, and that I could get caught and be exposed, but I still watched it anyway because I wanted to. How can something be so strong that I would throw away all "my" values for whatever this stuff gives, whether it be satisfaction, tittilation, I have no clue... Could it be that I was raised in an African country where there pornography is absolutely unheard of? I never heard of playboy's till I ended up in the USA, where I steadily declined morally and lost all innocence. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! EDIT: I never subscribed or even looked at mags. Just looked at a few video clips and so on.. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
if you had said after 15 minutes of porn you were regretful I could understand but it was 3-4 hours! the porn didn't take your innocence, you did. God I'm tired of people blaming society for their problems, you could have stopped watching that anime at any point but you watched it untill your eyes bled. That's the price we pay for freedom, it makes us responsible for what we do.
I know what I know from 1) simple observence of others around me in relation to porn and 2) what I have learned from my Sociology class, which studies more people and draws the same conclusions. I agree with this, don't get me wrong. I am always open about talking about sexuality, especially with young children because they need to understand and know that we are human beings and not the work of some sadistic God who hates intimacy. But we need to distinguish between how we portray sex however, there has to be consequences.
BINGO! Sex/nudity IS "porn" because you've been taught that and you'll go to hell if you disagree. The fact that nudity and sex is "wrong" to you describes this whole issue perfectly.
Carnality is outlined as a no-no. After all, it is not a necessity (for survival), not a necessity for pleasure... If I can't find total and complete satisfaction and love in my Bible then what is my salvation? I think sevenblu is the one that said it takes the mind of God unto temporary pleasures of the body. And the body must not win over the spirit.
Exactly. You feel that wayy, so that's why you repressed it. Doesn't make it society's fault. You also wouldn't have had that "regrettable experience" if you'd stopped watching before the three hour mark.
Hastein just as a small thought of self regulation, which you should be taught in your socioligy class, who were the studies done on that the data is collected and then said to represent? i can garentee you will find a conflict in that if you look at the application. i am not sying you are wrong im just suggesting that even within the theory of psychology and sociology there is often cross contamination of summery by definition of target demographics, only to then collectively group many cultures and styles of child to adult teaching. §outh§tar so far the only thing you have managed to define is your own lack of self control. if that is the result of the education that you claim to be soo good then what is your conclusion? why you choose to view anima porn simply baffles me except to conclude you thought it might be less self condeming than watching real people. you broke the law, you choose to do so in a niche area, you now condem others for your own actions that go against what is defined as normal and legal. take some time out to think about what consequences you feel have come to you from this, and then think again about what is considred inside the legal and normal ways that the society you are living in has labeled and defined these. i suggest a little self contemplation and some honest questions and answers of yourself, we all make mistakes of different things. some thing that are mistakes for some are life sving and or life changing for the better for others. not all people learn the same way through the same experiences. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
sevenblu said: Not true at all. The bodies of children are not yet ready for sexual intercourse, & they can be seriously (physically) harmed if sexually abused by adults. Paedophilia represents the most common face of human sexuality's omnipresent "dark side". But its ethical implications have long been rather problematic. The conservatives of the "family values" Right believe that it can be controlled by restricting sex to the reproductive context of husband-wife relationships - but most child abuse takes place within the family. The "sex is beautiful" progressives have never quite worked out how to react to paedophilia - it's not beautiful at all, but what subtle, judicious mix of liberation/ repression could keep it "under control", without raising uncomfortable ideological contradictions? These days, I tend to think that sexuality in general is one of those unfortunate, crude & archaic aspects of human nature that we haven't yet worked out how to get rid of. Or at least convincingly domesticate. But I tend to be rather more positive when I'm feeling randy. (But even then, I view my hormonal comings & goings with detached but critical skepticism). Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
If there wasn't any apple, Adam and Even wouldn't have sinned. Most plausible reason. I think I have a hard time learning from my mistakes considering I keep telling myself not to view any more of it and yet kept breaking my own vows.. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I've been "clean" for a while though. Woohoo for cold turkey! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! (Note: I only watched that anime stuff two-three times.. k, maybe a little more..) As for whether I liked whether I watch, saying yes would obviously make me a weirdo, not to mention going against what Christianity tells me. I don't think I like it since I was afterwards repulsed by my actions. However my consequent disgust did not prevent me from reverting to my earlier mistakes for very long... Hmm
