spidergoat i agree with your comment, the reality of the comparison is in the mind of the observer, when it is derived to a state of porn, if someone has been around women long enough they will know they find interest in watching sports men (good looking fit well muscle toned) as well as enjoy the socialisation of the event *genralising Hastein i think you are on to a track that holds merit but i wonder how much you have considered that women are yet to find balance from the years of in-equality that is still present in parent to child verbal teaching and mannerisims, and .. all religions have parts that are progresive and regressive and stagnant, you may be better served to look at population numbers in certain countrys than ficus soley on one particular religion, as communities in genral collect in ways to find common ground be that prescibing to some mild notation of religouse labeling or non what-so-ever. take another step back then look at it again from a further distance. when talking pornography as someone mentioned sorry i cant recal of hand, YOU MUST devide it from abuse, as abuse is always abuse and is there for not pornography. Just because some person is disfunctional enough to find plesure in some type of abuse does not mean that form of abuse is then grouped as pornography. we should look to the non abusive example to define the name and the perameters. Hastein a better place to give guidence for your theory on socialisation would be in deeper issues that are founded in social trend , defined by nurture and learning trends as well as normal social backlash to extreemist concepts. we need to stop allowing people to teach children that they should be ashamed of their body or of sexual activety, it creates a great deal of social disfunction, and spawns many mental health costs and sociatal costs in lives and billions of dollars in policing and health care. from deseases to rape and assualt and stalking its an evolutionary stage we are slowly becoming aware of as a civilisation Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!