Pornography: Why???

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by §outh§tar, May 29, 2004.

  1. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    how would you know? :bugeye:

    If no one cared, then it wouldn't be rape, now would it?

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    The bottom line is celibacy prevents rape like porn doesn't.

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    //Which is NOT saying porn is the origin of rape, or the leading cause of it, or anything of the sort now..
     
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  3. Rick Valued Senior Member

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    During Old times,in Vedic Period,Kamasutra was taught to the students in schools(called Gurukul).People learned the art of sex after their education, and helped them to lead a healthy Sex life.Was Porn an Issue really? Nope.Since Sex and Art of Sexual healing and meditation was taught in schools.

    Pornography today includes Sick stuff like Snuff(i"ve been watching 8 mm too much lately

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    ),which i wont certainly ever approve...But wether its Bad or Good depends upon point of view,there's no Male or Female thing in this...I"ve stated my P.O.V.
    bye!
     
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  5. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Mind telling us what Snuff is?
     
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  7. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    "Mind telling us what Snuff is? "

    The kinds of films I make.

    On topic:
    Porn should be decentralized and given freely to pubescent boys and girls when they are blooming.
    This way, sexual deviance does not contaminate the natural processes of the growing body that "civilization" ties down and drowns with its conventions.
    This is why the common man is a zombie when he's grown- he was drowned as a youth and now he walks around with an unxplainable hunger in his body that has quietly become his nightmare.

    Let youth breathe. Let its testicles out and permit it the experience that will either warm it love or burn it with syphillys- the body says I have pubic hair and my pisshole is bleeding. This is Mother Nature speaking out from the tomb Man has tried and tried burying her in- let man live.
     
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  8. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Promoting celibacy doesn't prevent rape. Your basically saying 'not killing people things prevents murder'. Well.... duh. That doesn't real say anything. If you could somehow show that porn causes rape, that'd be one thing. Others might consider it an outlet for people who would otherwise be doing things in real life.

    This is the old 'tv rots your brain' argument.
     
  9. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    §outh§tar

    if by celebicy you mean no form of sexual activety at all then you are on to a sure looser.
    celebicy is one of the root causes of sexual disfunction.
    its just that simple, no major complicated formula required.
    lack or low quality sex education is the other main component to sexual disfunction also.
    between the two of these you have the majority of all sexual disfunction translating to mental disfunction, which does not include mental or physical abuse.

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  10. Working Class Hero Skank Monster Registered Senior Member

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    Look at priests!
     
  11. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    I was waiting for that answer.

    Just wait for a couple of incidents to crop up in the news, and then point and shout at all priests for being homosexuals.. and I'm not even Catholic.
     
  12. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    I am sure generations of nuns and monks then have mental disfunction, stemming from sexual disfunction. I do think Buddhists have the same practice too.

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  13. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Well, you know being celibate can NOT cause rape.

    You know porn to glorify sex. I wouldn't say 'causes', more along the lines of 'can lead to' because it is related to sexual activity where one is agressive and the other is passive (in the case of two-people porn), which is similar to rape.
     
  14. buffys Registered Loser Registered Senior Member

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    a couple? Normally I'd agree using an exception with only two or three examples is a poor way to make a point but we aren't talking about 2 or 3 here. It was practically an epidemic.
     
  15. kmguru Staff Member

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    The obsession on Sex and to the extreme Pornography in western society is for some reason out in the extreme. For example, Bill Clinton wrote a book that is over 960 pages long. Yet all the interviews including "60 minutes" focused on his sex life which was described in a few pages.

    And this topic is on 13th page....wow!
     
  16. buffys Registered Loser Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not sure what kind of porn you frequent but... what the hell are you talking about? In the porn I've seen I can say catagorically the majority have no passive participants. I've seen male and female porn stars looking extremely bored but passive is not a word that leaps to mind in most cases.

    either you have never actually seen porn which would make your observations meaningless or, what seems more apparent with each post, you prefer the rough stuff. Either way it doesn't help your argument.
     
  17. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Over 2500 views should say something about why pornography is indecent. Just an unhealthy interest.
     
  18. §outh§tar is feeling caustic Registered Senior Member

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    Well, since they can't be equally agressive, I would assume one would be found to be relatively passive to the other's agressive stance. But you do say, at least, that there is agressiveness or a certain dominance that is similar to rape?

    Again, not claiming that porn directly causes rape. It might be one of the factors.
     
  19. kmguru Staff Member

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    You mean, too many views equates to indecency and unhealthy interest?

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    So is food. In fact food has been directly correlated to rape.

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  21. buffys Registered Loser Registered Senior Member

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    ok, you've clearly never had a girlfriend or you'd realize how ridiculous that statement is.

    are there types of porn that simulate rape, even some that show actual rape? I assume so. Is it the majority of porn? not in my experience. In fact most dominance porn I've run across has the woman in the dominant role.

    No one would argue that seriously deviant sex can be found in porn, of course it can. Some preists are pedophiles, does that make the preisthood as a whole evil? Up to now you've been claiming ALL porn is deviant, or leads to deviant behavior. If you'd started this thread saying, "some porn is dangerous and might lead to dangerous behavior" I might have agreed and this would be a significantly shorter thread.

    reread your posts, you were claiming porn directly causes rape or a the least VERY, VERY, strongly implied it.
     
  22. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    Porn is the artificial visualisation of sexual fantasies, and they would range from the timid to the extremely outrageous; even rape, even murder. But it's only depicting fantasy, right? Lascivious fantasy, but fantasy just the same; Hollywood does it all the time and is respected for it.

    Depictions of fantasy, such as in novels and movies, can, stir the emotions, feed the psyche, provide insights, stimulate the brain etc. It's just that porn, specialises in stimulating sexual desires. But I believe it can only stimulate what is already there in the subconscious. I am in no doubt that some men might find scenes of violent rape sexually appealing, but I'm also pretty certain that most intelligent men would not care to view such scenes if they had a choice.

    The thing is, that every fantasy; every fetish, is out there, in pornoland, catering to every whim and taste and of course it can get pretty gross, but as long as all it does is to provide an outlet for self release (of subdued desires), then it's probably even a good and healthy thing to use in moderation (like red wine).

    People do get addicted to it, but I think the worst thing about that is the damn' expense of it all. People that are influenced so much that they want to experience the fantasy for real, better be sure that by doing so, they won't be doing anything illegal, or anything that is dangerous, to their intended partners. They better also make sure, that if they're married, they don't get caught; unless the wife's a part of the fantasy of course

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  23. kmguru Staff Member

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    I agree. However, going by that logic, the opponents bring up the connection that Porn creates the fantasy that leads to rape. Before the video era, it was the porn novels that caused the rape and now, it is the video.

    The same group do not like to say that violence depicted in movies causes murder or atleast bullying and physical violence. And also neglect to mention that rape is not sexual fantasy fulfilled but violence fulfilled.

    Every rape case in the court look for violence to prove the case and hence defines rape as physical violence.

    Remove the violence from the society then you can remove the rape.

    Western society looks down on pronography the same reason it controls plants such as marijuana, or any real pain killers or mood enhancing products.
     

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