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  1. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    But then they need to treat the Corrections Officers in a humanitarian manner, have you ever spent a day in a Corrections Facility to see what treatment the prisoners dish out to the Corrections Officers, the infantile if something like the toilet isn't working it should have been fixed yesterday attitude, ( forget the fact that the prisoner stuffed his and several of his buddies rolls of toilet paper down the commode) and then throwing feces at the Officers because they now don't have any toilet paper to wipe their ass, to collecting roaches to put in the food of their fellow prisoners when they do KP to earn early release for good behavior, (that one started a three day melt down in the dinning facilities), yes tell me how much they deserve Humane treatment, I will agree with you, but that also should be contingent on the humane treatment by them of the Corrections Officers.

    And Pamela Richardson suppose Spec.6, Iraqi war veteran is a liar, no Spec.6's since 1985.
     
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    The constitutional law prohibiting cruel and unusual punishment is not provisional. Corrections officers cannot be vigilantes.
     
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    And Corrections Officers are human, now before you keep trying to condemn the Corrections Officers for what is accused to be cruel and unusual treatment, my best friend was a Corrections officer in the Texas Department of Corrections, he retired in 1995, last year the last complaint was cleared by the FBI in which he was accused of improper treatment of Prisoners in the Texas System, he was named in 24,000 complaints, every thing from closing the doors to loudly, to using unnecessary and excessive force, and guess what he was cleared in all cases, of the 800 Inmates that made the charges, 550 receive additional sentences for assaulting my friend in the performance of his duty.

    ps: the inmates wouldn't lie about what happened now would they?????
     
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  8. mountainhare Banned Banned

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    spidergoat:
    Who cares?

    A small percentage. The vast majority of criminals are indeed guilty, and those in maximum security tend to be bad eggs. I have no doubt that occasionally prison guards are sadistic, but they'd probably only target the smart asses and scum.

    That's debatable. I'd argue that a child molesteror or serial rapist is getting off lightly by getting a holiday in jail.

    They deserve bread, water, and hard labour (eg. breaking rocks with a pickaxe).

    Who cares if it's law?
     
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    She is stupid, she has all things desired yet is a mindless drone / puppet.
     
  10. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I would say she is very smart. She makes a lot of money from fools, doing absolutely nothing.
     
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    Neo-Con ideology 101.
     
  12. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Sorry sam that film was not from a Texas Prison, that was one of the first jobs I held after I left the Army, and completed my College Degree, (Criminal Justice/Juvenile Corrections), and the uniforms pictured are not Texas Department issue, and the other thing is we didn't see any of the reasons for the actions of the Corrections Officers, I saw several Sheriff Placards, which means sometime had already passed and some thing happened and the block was being re-secured, a one sided report from a reporter with a agenda doesn't prove a thing, I worked as a Corrections Office for 3 years, and the only time I saw any thing like this was when the prisoners had started a riot or had weapons and some one had been attack or killed, I wish I had access to the photos of what the inmates did to each other, and the Guards, the 4th day I was on duty at the Wynn Farm Unite, at Huntsville Texas, I was assigned to the Mess Hall, and I saw and was involved in the arrest of a Inmate who walked up behind a fellow inmate and decapitated that inmate while he was seated at the table eating his lunch, when we finally regained control of the mess hall, yes we made them call out on their bellies, why because it is much harder to attack from a prone position that from your feet, the reasons they were strip was for weapons control, to make sure that no one else had a shank, and we found 7 more shanks that day in the mess hall, it was a planned attack and their were 3 more inmates that were suppose to die.

    ps: if you would care to notice, any Corrections Officer who was found to be guilty of abusing a inmate, such as the one mentioned early in the film, for raping a male inmate, were charged, and tried and if found guilty ended up in prison as a prisoner themselves, can the same be said of Indian Law Enforcement/ Correction Officers? from my research no.
     
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    Yes reporters with their own agenda's reporting half the story, and showing that Corrections Officers that break the Law are charged and if convicted of the charges end up in prison, in the United States, now how about India? huh sam? how well does India handle the torture, rape and murder that occurs every day by Indian Police and Correction Officers? HUH?

    MALDIVES/INDIA: Torture, harassment, humiliation and inhuman treatment of Tamil prisoners in Maldives jail

    URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION URGENT ACTION

    ASIAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION - URGENT APPEALS PROGRAM

    26 September 2005
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    UA-168-2005: MALDIVES/INDIA: Torture, harassment, humiliation and inhuman treatment of Tamil prisoners in Maldives jail

    MALDIVES/INDIA: Torture; Impunity; Government inaction; Rule of law
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    Dear friends,

    The Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC) has received information from People’s Watch – Tamil Nadu, a human rights organistion in Tamil Nadu, India, regarding Tamil prisoners languishing in jails in the Maldives who have allegedly been brutally assaulted, harassed, humiliated, ill-treated and tortured by the jail authorities there. Specifically the information refers to one Tamil man, namely Mahesh Vincent who has been accused of stealing leather goods, but also details the general conditions for other Tamil detainees facing charges. A joint petition reportedly sent by eight south Indian prisoners along with Mahesh in Male to the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu last year reveals some shocking stories. “Four Tamil prisoners from India have been beaten to death by the prison authorities in Male since 2001. Still worse the officials were able to obtain false certificates from some of the Indian doctors themselves to prove that the deceased had committed suicide. The doctors have been threatened by the local authorities and they are forced to produce false certificates as to the cause of death of these four prisoners. The officials in the Indian High Commission in Male do not provide any assistance needed to the poor South Indian labourers, whose conditions are pathetic in jail”.

    In light of this we ask that you please write immediately to the relevant authorities requesting their urgent intervention in this matter. The Government of India must directly communicate with senior government authorities in the Maldives to question the exact charges these prisoners are facing. The relevant authorities in the Maldives must also immediately investigate the detention of these prisoners and the conditions they have faced while in jail. If it is found that jail authorities have violated their duties and committed crimes against prisoners, then full legal action must be taken. If the charges against the Tamil detainees carry insufficient evidence, then they must be released from jail and allowed to return to India without delay. A full investigation should also be conducted into the behaviour of all jail authorities in the Maldives, as this matter suggests that violations of human rights may be a common occurrence within the jail system.

    Urgent Appeals Desk
    Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC)
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    DETAILED INFORMATION:

    Case Details:

    Mr. G. K. Sathyanesan, residing at “Sathyaham”, 7-97 Church Road, Muttom (post), Kanyakumari district, Southern Tamil Nadu, sent his son Mahesh Vincent (33) to the Maldives in October 2001, with the hope of getting relieved from his heavy debts. Mahesh Vincent went to Male to work as an accountant under Mr. Ahmed Ibrahim Didi, Campus Shop, Majeedhee Magu in a leather goods showroom. He came to India for holidays in February and September 2002 and he was supposed to return again in April 2003 for his usual holidays. However, Mahesh never arrived.

    Mr. Sathayanesan was anxious to know the whereabouts of his son so he began enquiring. Only after three months did he learn that his son had been falsely implicated in a theft case and had been languishing in jail since 23 April 2003. Mahesh was arrested on April 23 for having allegedly stolen leather goods, and later another case was lodged against him for having allegedly committed the same crime. He was taken to an investigation cell on April 29 and later to Mapusi jail on May 25.

    Grief stricken, Mr. Sathyanesan sent a petition to the President of India, Dr. A. P. J. Abdul Kalam on 27 January 2004, seeking his immediate intervention in securing the release of his son. His petition was immediately forwarded to the Ministry of External Affairs, New Delhi. The Ministry sent a communication to the High Commission of India in the Maldives on 11 February 2004, asking them to look into the matter of Mahesh Vincent. The Indian High Commission in Male sent a reply to the Ministry on 25 February 2004, stating: “Shri Mahesh Vincent was arrested by the local authorities on May 25, 2003 in connection with a theft case. His case is still pending in the court. No formal jail sentence has yet been awarded to him. Since the case is subjudice, the matter of his release/pardon can be taken up with the authorities only after its disposal by the court. The aforesaid person, however, was interviewed by the consular team from the Mission on January 21, 2004. During the meeting it transpired that he is keeping good health.”

    Through People’s Watch – Tamil Nadu, the AHRC has come to know that there are many more undertrial Tamil prisoners languishing in Male prisons. They are being subjected to untold suffering in the prisons. The forms of abuse adopted by prison authorities in Male against prisoners include brutal assault, blindfolding them with Glycerine soaked clothes, making them bend for long hours, frightening them with sudden bursts of teargas shells, forcing them to remove their moustache or tonsure from their heads, frightening them with sudden gunshots, not providing them water, food or medical facilities, and forcing them to sign papers written in a language not known to them. Tamil prisoners with their hands bound behind their backs are dragged to the main grounds and beaten. Mahesh has mentioned that his eyes are blurred and that he has lost all hearing in his right ear due to the continuous severe beatings and ill-treatment by prison officials he has received.

    Mahesh has also mentioned that “one Richard from China has been in jail for more than 13 years but no trial has been conducted so far and rumours are going around that the prison authorities are planning to finish him off soon by giving him poison and there are many more foreigners (non-Muslims) like him languishing in jail for more than 10 years”.

    A joint petition reportedly sent by eight south Indian prisoners along with Mahesh, in Male to the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu last year reveals more shocking stories. “Four Tamil prisoners from India have been beaten to death by the prison authorities in Male since 2001. Still worse the officials were able to obtain false certificates from some of the Indian doctors themselves to prove that the deceased had committed suicide. The doctors have been threatened by the local authorities and they are forced to produce false certificates as to the cause of death of these four prisoners. The officials in the Indian High Commission in Male do not provide any assistance needed to the poor South Indian labourers, whose conditions are pathetic in jail”.

    The above mentioned details clearly indicate that there are more innocent South Indian prisoners (particularly Tamils) in Male subjected to cruel and inhuman treatment by the prison authorities in Male. The joint petition detailed specifically eight petitioners to the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. They were: S. Thiyagarajan (Passport No: V.758838, formerly of Sivagangai Districti – 623 557, implicated in a murder case and in jail since 20 January 2002); M. Jeyaraj (Passport No: B 1885634, formerly of Virdhunagar Disctrict – 627 713, implicated in a murder case and in jail since 20 January 2002); S. Rajan (Passport No: B. 1341926, formerly of Kanyakumari District, booked in a rape and murder case and in jail since 9 August 2002); K. Kamalahaasan (Passport No: B. 5949539, formerly of Nagapattinam Disctrict – 609115, booked in a rape and murder case and in jail since 9 August 2002); A. Poyini Venkatesh (Passport No: E. 3451794, formerly of Andhra Pradesh, implicated in a theft case and in jail since 25 June 2003); K. Marimuthu (Passport No: A. 6768101, formerly of Ramanathapuram Disctrict, invalid visa and in jail since 20 September 2003); M. Rajendran (Passport No: K. 112061, formerly of Kanyakumari District; invalid visa and in jail since 20 September 2003); T. Sedhu Rjana (Passport No: B. 3667356, formerly of Ramanathapuram District, formerly of Ramanathapuram District – 623704, implicated in a murder case and in jail since 4 November 2003). All the above named persons are being detained in the same jail.

    The content of the petition highlights the ruthless approach and attitude of the prison authorities in Male towards non-Muslim foreign prisoners, especially Tamils from India. The methods of torture and other ill-treatment adopted by prison authorities clearly contravenes various provisions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Articles 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 and 13), the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (Articles 6, 7, 9 and 14), the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (Articles 2, 4, 11 and 12) and several provisions of the Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners. The Code of the Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 1979 categorically states: “In the performance of their duty, law enforcement officials shall respect and protect human dignity and maintain and uphold the human rights of all persons” (Article 2); “No law enforcement official may inflict, instigate or tolerate an act of torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment (Article 5)”.

    A memorandum was sent to all Members of Parliament in Tamil Nadu on 23 February 2005, explaining to them the critical situation of the above-mentioned undertrial prisoners and the inhuman treatment meted out to them at the hands of prison officials in Male. It also sought there immediate intervention in this regard.


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    Sample letter:

    Dear ____________,

    MALDIVES/INDIA: Torture, harassment, humiliation and inhuman treatment of Tamil prisoners in Maldives jail

    I write to voice my deep concern about information I have received regarding the treatment of Tamil prisoners currently languishing in Maldives jails. According to this information, one Mahesh Vincent formerly of Kanyakumari district, southern Tamil Nadu, India, was arrested in Male in April 2003 allegedly for having stolen leather goods and has been detained in jail awaiting trial ever since. I am also aware that there are many other Tamil prisoners who have been detained for similar periods, without having been brought before a court.

    These prisoners have been subjected to untold suffering in the prisons. The forms of abuse adopted by prison authorities in Male against prisoners include brutal assault, blindfolding them with Glycerine soaked clothes, making them bend for long hours, frightening them with sudden bursts of teargas shells, forcing them to remove their moustache or tonsure from their heads, frightening them with sudden gunshots, not providing them water, food or medical facilities, and forcing them to sign papers written in a language not known to them. Tamil prisoners with their hands bound behind their backs are dragged to the main grounds and beaten. Mahesh has mentioned that his eyes are blurred and that he has lost all hearing in his right ear due to the continuous severe beatings and ill-treatment by prison officials he has received.

    Along with Mahesh, whose father is Mr. G. K. Sathyanesan from Muttom (post), Kanyakumari disctrict, southern Tamil Nadu, eight other prisoners signed a joint petition last year detailing the shocking conditions they were enduring and sent it to the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu. Within its content the petition mentioned that “four Tamil prisoners from India have been beaten to death by the prison authorities in Male since 2001. Still worse the officials were able to obtain false certificates from some of the Indian doctors themselves to prove that the deceased had committed suicide. The doctors have been threatened by the local authorities and they are forced to produce false certificates as to the cause of death of these four prisoners. The officials in the Indian High Commission in Male do not provide any assistance needed to the poor South Indian labourers, whose conditions are pathetic in jail”.

    The above-mentioned details clearly indicate that there are more innocent South Indian prisoners (particularly Tamils) in Male subjected to cruel and inhuman treatment by the prison authorities in Male. The names of those on the petition, along with Mahesh’s were: S. Thiyagarajan (Passport No: V.758838, formerly of Sivagangai Districti – 623 557, implicated in a murder case and in jail since 20 January 2002); M. Jeyaraj (Passport No: B 1885634, formerly of Virdhunagar Disctrict – 627 713, implicated in a murder case and in jail since 20 January 2002); S. Rajan (Passport No: B. 1341926, formerly of Kanyakumari District, booked in a rape and murder case and in jail since 9 August 2002); K. Kamalahaasan (Passport No: B. 5949539, formerly of Nagapattinam Disctrict – 609115, booked in a rape and murder case and in jail since 9 August 2002); A. Poyini Venkatesh (Passport No: E. 3451794, formerly of Andhra Pradesh, implicated in a theft case and in jail since 25 June 2003); K. Marimuthu (Passport No: A. 6768101, formerly of Ramanathapuram Disctrict, invalid visa and in jail since 20 September 2003); M. Rajendran (Passport No: K. 112061, formerly of Kanyakumari District; invalid visa and in jail since 20 September 2003); T. Sedhu Rjana (Passport No: B. 3667356, formerly of Ramanathapuram District, formerly of Ramanathapuram District – 623704, implicated in a murder case and in jail since 4 November 2003). All the above named persons are being detained in the same jail.

    The contents of the petition highlighted the ruthless approach and attitude of the prison authorities in Male towards non-Muslim foreign prisoners, especially Tamils from India. The methods of torture and other ill-treatment adopted by prison authorities clearly contravenes various provisions of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Articles 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 and 13), the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (Articles 6, 7, 9 and 14), the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (Articles 2, 4, 11 and 12) and several provisions of the Standard Minimum Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners. The Code of the Conduct for Law Enforcement Officials adopted by the U.N. General Assembly in 1979 categorically states: “In the performance of their duty, law enforcement officials shall respect and protect human dignity and maintain and uphold the human rights of all persons” (Article 2); “No law enforcement official may inflict, instigate or tolerate an act of torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment (Article 5)”.

    I am aware that a memorandum was sent to all Members of Parliament in Tamil Nadu on 23 February 2005, explaining to them the critical situation of the above-mentioned undertrial prisoners and the inhuman treatment meted out to them at the hands of prison officials in Male. It also sought there immediate intervention in this regard. To date however, I am unaware of any action having been taken.

    In light of this I request your urgent intervention in this matter. The Government of India must directly communicate with senior government authorities in the Maldives to question the exact charges these prisoners are facing. The relevant authorities in the Maldives must also immediately investigate the detention of these prisoners and the conditions they have faced while in jail. If it is found that jail authorities have violated their duties and committed crimes against prisoners, then full legal action must be taken. If the charges against the Tamil detainees carry insufficient evidence, then they must be released from jail and allowed to return to India without delay. A full investigation should also be conducted into the behaviour of all jail authorities in the Maldives, as this matter suggests that violations of human rights may be a common occurrence within the jail system.

    I look to your intervention in this matter.

    Yours sincerely,


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    PLEASE SEND A LETTER TO:

    1. Mr. A.P.J. Abdul Kalam
    President of India
    Rashtrapathi Bhavan,
    New Delhi - 110 004
    INDIA
    Fax: +91 11 23017290/ 23017824
    E-Mail : presidentofindia@rb.nic.in

    2. President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom
    Public Service Division
    The President’s Office
    Shaheed Abdulla Zuhair Hin’gun
    Male 20113
    REPUBLIC OF MALDIVES
    Tel: +960 323701
    Fax: +960 310573
    Email: info@psd.gov.mv

    PLEASE SEND COPIES TO:

    1. Dr. Manmohan Singh
    Prime Minister of India
    Room No. 152, South Block,
    New Delhi - 110 001
    INDIA
    Tel: +91 11 23012312 / 23013149 / 23019545
    Fax: +91 11 23016857

    2. Justice A.S. Anand
    Chairperson of National Human Rights Commission
    Faridkot House, Copernicus Marg,
    New Delhi - 110 001
    INDIA
    Tel: +91 11 23382742
    Fax: +91 11 23384863
    Email: nhrc@ren.nic.in

    3. Mr. K. Natwar Singh
    External Affairs Minister
    Akbar Bhavan, Chanakya Puri
    New Delhi-110021
    INDIA
    Tel: +91 11 26114451, Extn.1205/1219, 24103071, 24103205
    E-mail : usfsi@mea.gov.in

    4. Chief Minister
    Selvi J Jayalalithaa
    "Veda Nilayam", 81/36 Poes Garden
    Chennai - 600 086.
    Tamil Nadu
    INDIA
    Tel: +91 44 24670215 (R), 044-25672345 (O)
    Fax: +91 44 25671441
    Email: cmcell@tn.gov.in

    5. Justice Pratap Singh Maaligai
    Tamil Nadu Human Rights Commission
    2md Floor, No. 35, Thiru Vi. Ka. Salai. Royapettah
    Chennai - 600 014
    Tamil Nadu
    INDIA

    6. Justice Minister
    Ministry of Justice
    Justice Building
    Orchid Magu Male 20-02
    REPUBLIC OF MALDIVES
    Tel: +960 322303
    Fax: +960 324103

    7. High Commission of India, HCI,
    Athireffe-Aa Ameer Ahmed Magu
    Male
    REPUBLIC OF MALDIVES
    Tel: +960 323015,323016
    Fax: +960 324778

    8. Prof. Manfred Nowak
    Special Rapporteur on the Question of Torture
    Attn: Mr. Safir Syed
    c/o OHCHR-UNOG
    1211 Geneva 10
    SWITZERLAND
    Tel: +41 22 917 9230
    Fax: +41 22 917 9016 (general)

    9. Ms Manuela Carmema Castrillo
    Chairperson
    Working group on arbitrary detention
    C/o OHCHR-UNOG
    1211 Geneva 10
    SWITZERLAND
    Fax: +41 22 917 9006


    Thank you.

    Urgent Appeals Programme
    Asian Human Rights Commission (AHRC)


    Posted on 2005-09-26
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Are you comparing India to the US? I did not realise the US is a third world country
     
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  17. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Are you kidding? That would be like compareing the color Black Indias record to the Purest White, Americas Record, I do not condone the abuse of inmates in prison and any who abuse, rape, assault, or kill, prisoners out side the rule of law are and should be punished, and we do that here in this country, we don't make ambassador of them,

    anbaree abdul sattar maldives top spy now ambassador to india
    He has been complicit at the highest level in state-ordered violence resulting in murder, torture and rape in Maldives jails under his personal command. ...
    http://www.maldivesculture.com/news/anbaree_abdul_sattar.htm

    Simranjit Singh Mann, Member of the Indian Parliament (M.P.)
    Today there are still thousands of Sikhs held in India's prisons with no ... for many serious Human Rights violations such as murder, torture and rape. ...
    http://www.thesteward.net/mann/index.html

    Torture In Punjab By ACHR
    The government of India legitimises torture by encouraging its use in the ... the Bilkis Yakub mass rape and murder case during the Gujarat carnage of 2002. ...
    http://www.countercurrents.org/hr-achr240604.htm

    Human Rights Watch: Publications: Asia : India
    Rape for Profit: Trafficking of Nepali Girls and Women to India’s Brothels ... corrupt and brutal police force whose recourse to murder and torture has been ...
    http://hrw.org/doc/?t=asia_pub&c=india&document_limit=20,20

    CRIMES BY LAW COURTS IN INDIA - Google Base | Google Groups
    An appeal to honourable supreme court of india. Indian prisons are meant to be ..... crimes of judges like- attempt to rape, murder , practice of ...
    http://groups.google.com/group/googlebase/browse_thread/thread/09d5dc78e13d7bbe

    Panthic Weekly: Suffering in Silence – who will hear our cries?
    ... of innocent Sikhs are still being tortured and held in Indian prisons? ... rape, murder, and torture of innocent Sikhs roam free and no justice has been ...
    http://www.panthic.org/news/129/ARTICLE/1676/2005-08-14.html

    I. SUMMARY In 1996, the conflict in Kashmir1 entered it seventh ...
    Indian security forces in Kashmir continue to administer torture ... against those members of its forces responsible for murder, rape and torture amounts to ...
    http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/kashmir/1996/India-03.htm

    Human Rights Crisis in Kashmir - A Pattern of Impunity
    The government of India should support swift investigations of extrajudicial executions, deaths in custody, torture and rape by Indian security forces and ...
    http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/news-1993-06-23.html
     
  18. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, I know, I guess India has enough of their own problems that to add Maldives wouldn't change the situation much.

    But I guess that shows maybe you need to look closer to home for problems, ay what?

    Never heard you raise a peep about them?
     
  19. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Thats a laugh. You have the biggest one as your President.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You are confused aren't you? And none of our problems are causing you heartburn, so why the concern. Better clean up your act though cos people are getting real tired of the bully in their midst.
     
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    Whatever. You fail at making the distinction between morally justified, and legally justified. Just because beating a piece of shit up is against the law, doesn't mean that it isn't deserved.
     
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    alright enough, tough guys....um, tough girls.

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    I would tell you that may be it would be a path you should take in your own country, start a ruckus and investigate a Prison your own country, start a organization to investigate the abuses, and why they aren't punished in your own country, in America they are brought to justice, if you break the law you go to jail weather you are a citizen, Police Officer or Corrections Guard.

    You know I have went out in the world and tried to back up my beliefs, I have went to war for my country because I believed in it, I have served in its law enforcement agencies because I believe in justice, I am on the Talk Shows, and express my opinion and call for people to change things that are wrong, and that I don't condone abuses of prisoners, but I also condemn the actions of people in custody who assault, rape and murder inside prisons and do everything they can to make life miserable for the rest of the prison population, and the Corrections Officers.

    What have you done, I am trying to change thing in my country, and I have a full plate here, now how about you getting off your royal complaining behind, and out of the care of your fathers house and fill your plate with the problems in your own country, from what I have posted you will find plenty to keep you busy, and maybe you just might make a dent in the judicial, police and prison corruption in your own country, or any of the neighboring countries in you part of the world, or are you afraid that you might receive a visit in the night, that you might disappear off of the street into your prison system, I state my opinion in a loud a clear manner, here in my country, and I don't fear a visit in the night, because I believe in what I am doing, and I am not afraid to back my belief with my blood, can you say the same? have you ever done the same, or are you afraid that you might just have to pay the price of getting your hands dirty by doing something that stands out in the sight of the corrupt authorities in your country, or do you satisfy you self with bitching about something that is happening in another country across the world, and never have to worry about backing your beliefs by putting your ass on the line.
     

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