Police say claim reward (get this)

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by Muslim, Dec 10, 2006.

  1. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Right, in our local area we are now supposed to report drug dealers and arms dealers to the police. Firstly, wtf that is the police's job to arrest them. Secondly, apparently you will get a reward. But get this, its anonymous reporting, in other words snitching' how the fuck are you supposed to claim a reward if you're supposedly reporting then anonymously?

    I think the police themselves have been getting high or something talking a load of shit, about neighbor hood watch programs. What the fuck is the police there for? we might aswell start policing. They expect the average Joe who can barely wipe his own ass to "keep an eye out" what ever the fuck that means. And don't approach anyone acting suspicious or asking for money, report them to the police? who...?? the fucking baggers?
     
  2. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    You don't want to rat on your friends?
     
  3. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    Why is it the Police's job to govern society? Shouldn't it be our job first and the police second?
     
  4. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    I wouldn't even to that to my enemy. Its not a noble thing to do. Its snitching, and around my area snitches get stitches. The police should already know who the dealers are.
     
  5. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Its the police's job to have criminals off the street. We don't pay them to sit on their fat asses and eat donuts all day and expect the citizens to "report" criminals to them. Last time I check Dick Tracy was a god damn detective not an average to who snitched on everyone.
     
  6. RubiksMaster Real eyes realize real lies Registered Senior Member

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    The point of reporting someone is that the police would be much slower at catching the criminal. Most people want to live in a clean and safe neighborhood, so if tipping off the police helps with that, they'll do it. It's assumed that people will only report someone who presests a genuine threat. You can't say that is not a noble thing to do. Your tip could even save somebody's life.

    The police still do their jobs, but if people take the responsibility of maintaining their own neighborhood, they might be able to do their jobs more efficiently.
     
  7. alexb123 The Amish web page is fast! Valued Senior Member

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    Umm I think we should all take responsbility for society. Unless we do this society is lawless because the police can only do so much. Also you ask any policeman what their most important tool against crime is and they will tell you its the general public.
     
  8. Fraggle Rocker Moderator

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    The only reason you have drug dealers operating clandestinely in residential areas without oversight or professionalism is that your stupid government won't allow drugs to be sold in respectable shops like they were a hundred years ago. Drugs are popular and people will buy them, there is absolutely nothing even the most meddlesome government can do about that. Drugs are available in schools and in prisons, drugs were available in the Soviet Union. The only choice is whether to have them sold in your neighbor's apartment or in the pharmacy on the corner.

    If you cause a drug dealer to be convicted and sent to prison, all that will happen is that another person will seize the opportunity to serve the market he abandoned. That next person will probably be an even harder criminal, because those are the only people willing to take the risks inherent in a black market enterprise.

    As for arms dealers... ironically shootouts rarely occur in their places of business so they are not as dangerous to have for neighbors as drug dealers.

    Unless you piss them off! Urban police forces almost everywhere are infiltrated with spies for criminal organizations. Never believe that anything you say to them is truly "anonymous."
     
  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Super Moderator

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    I haven't looked lately, but there used to be a police department somewhere in Illinois that had a web page for kids to log on and report their parents' drug use.
     
  10. draqon Banned Banned

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    treat police with respect and they will treat you with respect, obey the rules set by and police will obey the rules. W/ the islamic radicals all around France and other countries, police must keep them astrain and need other help as well. I trust police officers and they trust me, let reward fall to those who are loyal to justice, let blood flow within those who are disloyal.
     
  11. weed_eater_guy It ain't broke, don't fix it! Registered Senior Member

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    dude, i don't even know if the police take that request seriously, i think it's the typical community-relations jargon. They probably are well aware of the fact that people are scared shitless to go screwing around with whom could potentially be organized criminals, i.e., you snitch, they find your ass and beat the living daylight out of you.

    i'm sure they appreciate people sticking their neck out for them, but i don't think they'd ask for anything other than a hopeful "help us out if you dare!".
     
  12. Prince_James Plutarch (Mickey's Dog) Registered Senior Member

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    Muslim:

    Why don't you move the Hell out of Britain if you don't want to help the police and society? Seriously.
     
  13. Stryder Keeper of "good" ideas. Super Moderator

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    The Police don't stop crime from starting, in fact they won't even investigate crime unless:

    1: It's a major crime being reported (It's severity)
    2: There is supporting evidence to imply a follow up investigation.

    This means you can go to a police station and complain about someone up the road being up to no good, however unless you can provide evidence in the form of tape recordings (taken in public places), evidence in the form of what ever goods they might of stolen etc or other corresponding reports from other people in the neighbourhood... it's likely the police will actually ignore it.

    This is why you occasionally hear how the police fail when someone does some serious crime after being reported "Once" but without any supporting evidence to prove it's severity.

    As for "Snitching", the only people that complain about Snitches are usually those Criminals that have something to hide. If you've done nothing wrong, then there is nothing to be snitched about. So technically snitching shouldn't actually be seen as the wrong thing to do, unless you want to allow the "Bully boy" mentality of crime syndication control the streets rather than a free society.

    Nobility is standing up for society and doing your part to make the place a safer place to live. Such actions govern true respect as apposed to street hood culture.

    Understand also that the sorts of "Drug Dealers" the police want to hear about, isn't someone selling a few marijuana joints but the guys that punt kilo's of Cocaine or run Ecstasy labs. As for guns, well thats only common sense, allowing guns on the street allows for serious crimes to take place. Crimes that could cause serious injury or death to any members of public.

    You could be in a bank or a shop and have a robbery go wrong or perhaps you are walking in the wrong neighbourhood and they happen to decide to be quite racist to your ethnicity by shooting you, which just in turn generates a circle of events equally catastrophic.
     
  14. phonetic stroking my banjo Registered Senior Member

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    As long as it's not affecting us personally, I think we tend to turn a blind eye to certain things.

    It's not worth having your house burnt down, having the shit kicked out of you or dealing with the police/possibly having to testify in court (and having their scummy associates mark you).

    The risks outweigh possible gain.

    A family member lived above a drug dealer, a guy who'd been in jail for GBH and dealing for quite a few years, was drunk all the time, was on benefits, but somehow bought a brand new car.

    People were always going to their door. The couple argued, hit each other and left their children screaming in other rooms through the night. They left their kid in a pram outside for hours at a time, unsupervised. The garden was shared, but they treated it as their own and shouted at the people I knew in the flat above. They used the driveway, even though it belonged to the upstairs flat.

    The people I knew called the police about 20 times. Noise, hearing them fighting and their kids screaming, damaging property (including cutting a fat padlock off the gate. Like a one inch thick padlock.), etc. The police 'couldn't' do anything. There wasn't proof for the padlock. All that ever happened was they gave the guy a lift to a relatives house to cool off.

    All the while, this guy and his gf threatened my family members, myself included, intimidated them and basically made their lives hell. The guy tried to smash the door down when only the female I knew was in, by herself. Then the female family member snapped and couldn't take it anymore. They'd totally fucked her head up. They moved and I assume the scum still live there. The police did fuck all.

    The night she snapped though, the couple downstairs had called the police about the noise. Police were there in minutes. They said that they'd have to arrest her unless we could calm her down. They tried to say 'what can you do' and make out as if it was the rules, yet they knew the full story and the amount of shit the couple downstairs caused. Needless to say, it was lucky none of the police were hurt that night.

    I was ready to fuck the guy up with a metal bar, but I'd probably be decomposing in a ditch somewhere if I'd tried. Quite a well known name and widely known as a grade A arsehole.
     
  15. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    Its the polices job. They don't have problems arresting non-criminals and the average law abiding citizen or unloading a few bullets in your ass if your a Brazilian by 'mistake' and anyway its really not a good thing to snitch. Its just a dishonorable thing to do. Unless if you know this person was going to hurt innocents then thats different. I don't even know any criminals to report.

    You know in Punjabi we have a proverb "Chora Ka pichi bootiya lago" basically its translated as "Sending the wifes to catch the rapists" in other words its a stupid idea.
     
  16. Muslim Immortal Valued Senior Member

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    And anyway why should I move out of Britain. Firstly I'm a British citizen secondly I was born in England and 3rdly my granddad fought in world war 2. I have every-right to be here just as any human being of any ethnicity has a right. The earth doesn't belong to any human it belongs to god.

    Oh yeah, and if you ask your nice Queen to return everything she plundered from India and Punjab, and unify the nation as it was before the British came and compensate all the families who were in the British colonial army. And also compensate the the families which lost loved ones in the Amritsar massacre committed by General Dyer. Then I i might fucking think about going back to my motherland how about that?
     
  17. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    The police, as an institution are lying, thieving scum. I'm not talking about individuals, because there are always exceptions, but from my dealings with them as a victim, both in Cyprus and in England, they proved to me that they are shit. I wouldn't give them the time of day.
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    The police are respected community, they are people of honor, in all of my dealings with the police I have been treated properly and diligently as I have treated them.
     

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