Plastic pollution

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Bebelina, Nov 23, 2018.

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Do you sort your garbage? (plastic in particular)

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Sometimes

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  4. When there are available sorting containers

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  1. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, I misread your post as it was without attribution and directly below mine.
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    thats ok
    the subject infuriates me
    disregard any emotive content as it is my own frustration.
     
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  5. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Cool, now can you help me bandage the bullet holes?


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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    As for recycling, our local waste collection company has stopped accepting plastic for recycling. The city government is now completely out of any recycling programs.
     
  8. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    crazy
    no logic whats so ever.
    the government should run all main recycling plants
    the job creation would be amazing
    each city should have a recycling plant that recycles all household waste into
    plastic types
    mental types
    rubber types
    food

    correctly done it would create industry
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    That assumes the government can run the process better than private concerns.
     
  10. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    and what do all the private concerns business leaders do ?
    they become politicians and run those very same businesses and set them up
    ...
    how is that working out ?
    lol

    the right wing privateers set the government up to be toothless and overtly incumbent on companys having no regulation.
    then they blame the government for being soo wound up in regulatory practice that it hampers business.
    when they are part of the group who set the government up that way.
    its all a game to those seeking to asset strip and privatise as much as they can get their hands on.

    so please forgive my shortness in hearing phrases that suggest those very same business people are in some way better skilled at running businesses, because they obliviously are corrupt.
    unles you have another explanation

    so this renders your comment and many others assertions of the notion to become
    should corrupt business people run government businesses ?
    i say no
    better off to have a government run business that is not optimal than one that is run corruptly and designed to destroy the very service by bleeding every avenue dry until it collapses and needs a government bail out.
    like the utility companys

    we have seen how the private industry operate and that has lead to the current situation.
    why bank roll them to solve a problem they have no intention of fixing which they deliberately created to make as much profit as possible ?
    it is illogical.

    please do not take my tone personally.
     
  11. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, they're all idiots.
     
  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Upon occasion, typos are entertaining
    Do we really need to recycle those mental types?
    Did you have soylent green in mind?
     
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  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty safe assumption. The market pressure would be toward underperformance.
    Not to say any given government would, actually.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    and dumping and creating hidden toxic waste dumps
    they have done it wholesale style for the last 40 years
    when the laws changed they made fake companys then dumped it in other countrys.

    they are incapable of solving the problem.
    they have already proven that.
     
  15. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    Maybe we will one day be able to manufacture nano-bots or bacteria that can consume plastic and render it safe for the environment, humans, and all life.
     
  16. mmatt9876 Registered Senior Member

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    Blast it into outer space / the sun?
     
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  17. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    That is an interesting idea......
    but I prefer that it be mixed with other material and turned into building material.

    "Why plastic waste is an ideal building material"

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200819-why-plastic-waste-is-an-ideal-building-material

    One issue is how to make recycled plastic building products resistant to fire.
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i am pro paper cups
    i am also pro pottery cups

    however
    old tech paper production creates waste water pollution from treating the paper and pollute ground water
    without strict monitoring paper production factories will dump massive amounts of terrible chemicals into streams and water ways

    they have been doing it for decades.

    additionally
    paper cups need to be composted

    forcing employees to recycle is very difficult because businesses employ people who solely focus on making money
    not on saving the planet
    unless their is profit or sales bonuses in it
    employees wont do it
    companys know that
    politicians do not want to risk their tiny margin of votes which they hold power with
    by making new regulations against businesses who may threaten to stop giving them election funding money and votes


    micro plastics have now been found in such tiny sizes that they are entering the life cycle of small fish and into predatory fish and human food chains

    this toxification of the many species is a problem

    it would cost a lot of plastic to launch plastic (20 to 1 would be a starting ball park figure)
    they would have to produce probably around 20 times the amount of plastic to be able to launch the plastic

    want to blast 1 ton of plastic into the sun ?
    it will cost you 20 tones of plastic to produce

    Logical option but its 100% cost & no one wants to pay for it.
     
  19. candy Valued Senior Member

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    I have a vague memory of reading about I believe it was a fungus but it could have been a bacteria that can digest plastic.
    Mainly I remember we were talking about it at book club and hoping they kept it in the lab so it did not get into the plastic drain lines.
     
  20. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    LoL
    your post reminds me of some science fiction i have read
    also there has been some debate around the theory

    yes a fungus or bacteria that eats plastic would be disastrous to modern civilization and probably result in 10's of millions of deaths.
    There has been some secret development of such things
    but it is kept away from the public and secret to prevent anyone trying to release it to wipe out the modern world.

    what they have and how it works is well beyond my understanding
    the only working model that has made public for a brief moment in time
    was a fungus
    it was an artificially constructed fungus
    the rate of digestion was very slow

    part of the real problem is that such life is unable to be controlled yet so well

    so because OIL products make up most of our roads cars bridges passenger planes oil ships
    and buildings
    if such a fungus could develop and/or bacteria
    if released it could change and evolve to destabilize bridges roads buildings boats and planes
    school buses full of kids on motorways
    ferrys full of mornings travelers

    oil rigs & drill heads all across the usa etc

    imagine every oil well head in the usa all coming off at the same time
     

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