personality theory based on archetypes

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Kimani, Nov 7, 2013.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    So you don't see the inherent problem of labeling people with loaded, derogatory terms? Or worse, establishing a judgement system, ranging from good/positive to bad/negative?
     
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  3. Retribution Banned Banned

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    Feral children are always an important and pertinent measure/counterpoint for any psychological theory.
    Nice. Good luck getting them to anything other than "fit them in somewhere" though.
     
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  5. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    I have added 60 new questions.

    http://kimanishorter.tripod.com/assessment.html

    The scores / tests results from several Myers Briggs forums have helped me put together a rubric for my theory. I was able to figure out what the threshold / highest score should be for someone to have these archetype pairs.
     
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  7. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    The proposal is almost finished. Will be submitting it to DC Public Schools research division next month.
     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sure you'll find someone stupid enough to accept it.
     
  10. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    It's funny you should say that because it seems as if Shorter Typology has gone viral. This is incredible. Hundreds and Thousands of people are looking at the site everyday. Someone is taking it every minute. I'm on the front page of dozens and dozens of psychology google searches. I actually come above Wikipedia entries in google searches. Going on Myers Briggs forums and Typology Central really paid off. It's amazing how you can put something on the Internet and within a few years it snowballs and takes off and becomes this huge thing.
     
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  11. birch Valued Senior Member

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    yours is very general as i didn't even need to take it but just perused the questions to know which section would have the highest scores per individual.

    it's similar to calling the designer the intellect, the professional the status quo and the charmer a sociopath. now that one, the third section based on the questions most definitely indicate a sociopath/psychopath which is actually pretty common too just like the professional.
     
  12. birch Valued Senior Member

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    what i forgot to note is that what is good about this test is the titles/label for instance, like charmer. this is because the questions really indicate that it's really identifying sociopathic or psychopathic traits or values, but 'charmer' is not an aversive but flattering term so given that the test takers are already aware that scoring highly in that section results in a flattering personality trait (superficially), they would be more apt to be honest or less apt to lie. whereas, if it clearly indicated what that personality profile really was, then there would be more who would not be as revealing or fudge their answers.
     
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  13. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah I wanted to pick names for all the types that were appealing but also accurate. You are right in that it is a lot more broad and not as specific as the Myers Briggs. But it deals with the subconscious mind which Myers Briggs doesn't really seem to. I mean introversion and extroversion are things that people are very conscious of about themselves. They don't really have anything to do with the subconscious.
     
  14. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    Someone at intj forum suggested that I put tarot cards on the site. And I replied that I've always found it interesting how some of the archetypes run parallel with the tarot card system. And how the tarot card system is used to explore the subconscious and the collective unconscious. It kind of makes it even clearer how my idea bridges the gap between mysticism and the scientific. Or as someone said to me a while back I am trying to form a relationship between something that is scientific and something that isn't
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    my study took me to 14.

    it left me wondering about the difference between projective manipulation of peoples creative differences as a process of over simplification to render to a workable easy known variable.

    can you please post your paragraphs to this thread where you discuss this.
     
  16. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    The Designer in many ways can be thought of as the Hero and the Magician archetypes transforming over time into the Wise Old Man archetype, and eventually arriving there towards the end of life.

    The Hero cultivates wisdom during their journey by being presented with problems and obstacles that they have faced, learned from and overcome. Through those experiences the Hero has thereby become an expert like the Wise Old Man.

    The “obsessive” nature of Asperger’s, makes them odd but “insightful” like the Wise Old Man archetype.
    They come about this as a result of being able to obsessively focus on certain subjects. Unfortunately this is too often to the almost total exclusion of many other commonly accepted useful topic’s… such as social cues 101 and many other relationally symbiotic area’s of life
    (i.e. Dustin Hoffman’s character in the movie Rain Man).

    The Hero archetype faces many internal struggles, along the way, like those with Asperger’s and Bipolar disorder.
    They have many obstacles and challenges to overcome, and their special realities are best known only to them, like those with Aspergers and BIpolar Disorder.
    The Magician archetype:

    is always trying to understand the world around them and attain knowledge at a level like those with high functioning autism, in what used to be called Asperger’s disorder [DSM 4, but not included in DSM-5].
    During the Hypomanic stages of Bipolar disorder people tend to have more profound ideas, thoughts, energy and (the illusions of) power/control. So much so that they can sometimes motivate others to follow and even to believe in them…resulting in my analogy to the Magician archetype.
     
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  17. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This list has little to do with personality types. It is mostly a naive and dangerous attempt to diagnose disorders.
     
  18. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    It deals with personality disorders so it does deal with personality types. Personality disorders are another way of looking at personality types. I can't see how you could have missed that or not gotten the connection between the two.
     
  19. Kimani Registered Senior Member

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    The only one on the list that doesn't have everything to do with personality is bipolar because it deals with mood. But bipolar affects personality as well.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No, they are not.
     

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