Another illustration of my point, which is that a list of the failures of the UN is, apparently, a list of areas in which the UN is simply not strong enough to step on the US. The UN's many attempts to deal with Israel have been blocked by the US, quite openly and flagrantly. Now calling the UN worthless because it can't curb the US is maybe reasonable, from some other country's point of view, but it's a strange thing to hear from a US citizen. Why not have the US cooperate with the UN, and support it, thereby removing its primary obstacle to effective action? I am not sure what you ask for, here. A list of wars that did not happen? That ended sooner or with less bloodished than ws likely? Disarming Saddam has already been pointed out to you. Unfortunately, that was not enough to stop the US from launching war, but is that the UN's fault?
iceaura And how about Russia, China, France, do they veto thing in support of their positions? is the U.N. strong enough to step on their vetoes? do they stop the U.N. from acting in their and their allies best interest? stepping in and allowing the U.N. to act only until, either the people that they supporting have a advantage, or are in danger of getting their ass handed to them? yes selective, pot calling kettle, black.
pauco: It's a pity that they didn't gang up and give you a good old fashioned beating. Judging from your attitude, you may be due for one.
mountainhare Not possible, as you think and train so will you react, and in schools now days you are taught to be a coward, that fighting for any reason isn't civilized, and we don't want to be uncivilized now do we? That is why I laugh when I hear all of the liberals say that if America is attacked they will fight, this will not be possible as they have trained their mind to the idea that nothing is important enough to die for, and when the time comes they will find a reason that to defend the country isn't important enough to take the chance of loosing their life for and they will cut a deal to keep breathing one more day.
Buff: What? I've always heard Republicans bleating that youths are a bunch of thugs, and that such thuggish behaviour is because prayer was taken out of schools! It's just a pity that these five 'youths' didn't get thuggish on his Paul's ass. I personally believe that sometimes a good beating can set someone straight. Hell, I'd beat up some idiots just for the fun of it! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! America has attacked countries time and time again in the recent past. Even countries who HAVEN'T attacked America (ergo. Iraq). But then again, such belligerent behaviour is usually directed towards the weak, 3rd world 'shitholes'. I have yet to see America rattle sabres at Russia or China. Yes, the Republican 'bully' mentality is alive and well in America!
Whenever there is an inconveniently insolent Republican, Libertarian or Independent afoot. Can't have true diversity in an uncontrolled crowd. Edit: Necessary consonant transplant
mountainhare And like all liberals you have to have 5 to 1 superiority to grow any balls, and I question yours, sucker punches seem to be your style, fighting isn't for fun, I know of some who you would call Idiots, and it would be fun to see you try to have some fun with them, they don't fight for fun. Show me exactly were I am wrong, I spent a large amount of my time instructing young men in the art of being a warrior, soldier. It required some knowledge of how to set the mental attitude for making some one into a combat effective fighter, It requires a mental conditioning, and the out look of being able to fight, if means deciding that things are worth fighting for, and that is what is missing in the liberal mind set, everything I see posted says that nothing is worth losing lives for, you think that way so you will act that way, what you out into your mind day in day out with be the reaction that you will exhibit under stress, and under the stress of a invasion, your world being torn apart, you will go to the patterns set in your mind, and that pattern is that nothing is worth loosing your life over, so you will cut the deal, just to breath another day.
James R You have to go 62 years into the past? and in those days the Liberals were more conservative than the Republicans of today, they admired Patriotism, they loved their Country, and would kick your ass for insulting their Patriotism or their Country, let alone if you invaded it, the liberals of today aren't even close enough a part of these men to have been flushed down the toilet after they wiped their ass.
Occasionally. Not very often, compared with the US. US vetos since Reagan (who ended any tradition of US good faith behavior in the UN) have outnumbered (by double) all the others' total. WTF are you on about? The UN is not just the Security Council, it has done a lot of good, and has been ineffectual mostly in circumstances involving US interference - as your examples illustrate, and your latest example of Israel illustrates very well There is no pot and kettle here. And jingos ("conservatives" is too dignified) seem to think that anything at all, even delusion, is worth killing any numbers of anyone for. How many Iraqis should we kill to avoid appearing to be liberals, eh? How many is enough to satisfy the non-liberal "mindset" ? Backwards. The conservatives back then were more liberal than the "liberals" of today. Look at the CEOs of major corporations back then refusing to accept profits from war industry, and sending the money to charity or government programs, for reasons both of principle and image. There was a federal agency devoted to ferreting out and punishing war profiteers, during WWII, and it was supported by conservatives of the time - can you imagine anything like that today? Back then conservatives had honor. It's the young lefties and young liberals that form the backbone of most resistance movements, in real life. The young conservatives tend to follow orders, regardless of authority - and they enjoy the opportunity to bully people they despise.
Dear, Beloved mountainhare, 1. I'll bet you're closer to the "pacifists" (sic) than you are to those who support our brave troops in Iraq. How amusing of you to use such hateful language in support of uncalled for violence. 2. If you know anything about attacks, there is invariably a leader. Someone has to make the first move. None of these little boys had the balls to do such a thing. 3. But IF they did, I was not worried in the least. As I said, they were mere boys, in every sense of the word. After I had flattened the first one, the others would have backed off in a hurry. In any event, I was there, and I was fully prepared to finish up what I began. I find your cowardly hypocrisy very repugnant, but very typical of the left.
Said Saddam Hussein's (female dog). Europe, Thy Name is Cowardice by Mathias Dapfer You should read it, lad. You live in that socialist cesspool that is rapidly being overtaken by Muslims, whose arses you kiss so dutifully.
spidergoat That he will get a education, have to learn fast, just to stay alive, He will see Baghdad, and Murphy might still get him.
Well, no. Pick any war America has been involved in, and there you will find soldiers who vote Democrat. There are even some in Iraq.
pauco: Quite right. I sincerely hope you American flunkies suffer horrendous losses in Iraq. The further America plummets in its attempt to spread its filthy influence, the better. Every weakening of America makes the world a safer place. Uncalled for violence? It's not uncalled for: You're a moron. You went out of your way, and in a manner typical of Bush supporters, attempted to start trouble. If I had walked into a Christian fundraising event and started ridiculing their God, I have no doubt whatsoever that you would be secretly wishing that I received an ass whipping for my hubris. Or could it be that they didn't want to get their hands dirty touching filth such as yourself? Smacking belligerent bigots around is a dirty job, but someone has to do it. And no doubt you'd go crying to the cops the moment they laid a finger on you. Oh my, yes. I'm sure you would have broken out the Nunchukas and showed them your 'Fist of Fury' skillz. Bloated hardline Republicans love to brag about how they could kick the ass of 'real men' like Chuck Norris, yet show themselves to be whiny little bitches.
Spoken like a truly paranoid freak. Perhaps if you'd been civil and decent in your treatment of them, they wouldn't have been offended by your unwarranted hostility. What did you want? To educate them and improve the world? Your described method better resembles that of one who hopes to make himself feel better by abusing those perceived as weaker. First off, you prove my point. You still can't treat people respectfully. Perhaps that's because you perceive them as weaker then yourself? Seriously, by your own description: you stride over, thundered at people you describe as meek, and then laid hands on one of them when he didn't like your attitude. If they were our best and brightest, such atrocities and offenses as American troops have committed in the field would not be happening nearly so often. Besides, as the saying goes, "there are no atheists in foxholes". This statement, often offered in pride, actually precludes the best and brightest from the military. Given Clinton's actual shortcomings, however, I'm surprised to see the rape thing come up again. In the meantime, are all Republicans child rapists? There was one from Minnesota who stepped down in the late 80s or early 90s after getting drunk and having sexual contact with his fifteen year-old daughter and her friend in a hot tub.
