Discussion in 'Politics' started by SciWriter, May 2, 2011.
You tell me, I don't speak for everyone.
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Well hold on a minute aren't you to a traitor to the ummah? Or do you only trade with muslims in your English homeland?
I only do business with muslims.
You made the claim, back to your usual practice? I am not asking everyone I am asking you, who claimed he was a traitor to the ummah
I'm british born and bred, so I am talking about my country.
Where were you on 7/7? Prostrating to mecca I imagine. *sigh* Didn't the London bombings bother you Chi? Didn't you feel as if the nation had been attacked within its borders? I mean I'm just asking.
You asked me a question and I said I can't answer for the entire muslim community regarding how they behave as individuals.
I claimed he was a traitor, I didn't say you have to agree with my opinion.
Their ain't no Caliphate anymore, thank the gods.
Maybe, I am staggered by the implication that a country can be at war for 10 years based on an assumption for which it cannot even provide sufficient evidence to convince its own courts.
But yeah, I believe that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
In what court did they fail to provide evidence?
And I asked if he was a traitor akin to the way you are a traitor in your opinion. Do you consider him a traitor because he doesn't believe/behave as the majority of the ummah?
Except all those videos and tapes in which Osama claimed credit for his attacks?
I was actualy in King's cross while the bombs went off I was living in NW1 at the time, you think im going to run around in a panic blaming Osama just because of a Bomb going off. Scare tactics don't work on me nobody can force me to hate another or wage war on another group of people, I fight to defend my family and I have a calm head when fighting I don't enter into ittle hissy fits or rages due to exposions in my vicinity.
I mean really Sam its like pulling teeth. Why can't you give a straightforward answer to the following questions?
Are you denying that Bin Laden created, funded and led al-Qaeda?
Or are you denying that there is an al-qaeda?
Or are you implying that al-qaeda has never engaged in terrorism?
Because his guilt to any one of those questions is what had him on the most wanted list. I am asking you if you think Bin Laden is innocent of terrorism charges. I mean its only like the fourth time I've asked you.
I already explained why I claim he is a traitor, im not repeating myself.
No one is speaking of hate. I am asking whether you agree or disagree that Bin Laden was a threat to security and safety and had to be stopped one way or another.
Fake videos, different face, different noses, gold ring on his ring finger, muslims don't wear gold.
The straight answer is that I haven't seen any evidence to convince me of the above
And no he was not on the wanted list for 911. I believe a grand jury indicted him for the 1998 US embassy bombing, but he never stood trial for it so I don't know what the evidence is.
No I didn't feel a threat from Bin Laden.
Not that I, for a moment, believe that you could possibly set aside your weird conspiracy-o-philia to consider the obvious reality, but here's a short reading list for you:
"The Looming Tower" - Lawrence Wright, for starters. (Pulitzer Prize Winner)
"Inside the Jihad" - Omar Nasiri
"Taliban: Militant Islam" - Ahmed Rashid
"Ghost Wars" - Steve Coll
"Jawbreaker" - Ralph Pazzullo
"Al Qaeda in Its Own Words" (which, like, actually uses its members OWN WORDS) - Professor Gilles Kepel, Jean-Pierre Milelli, Pascale Ghazaleh and Omar Saghi
What's interesting is that this is but the tip of the iceberg. Numerous--as in THOUSANDS--of reporters have dug into this (probably one of the most investigated events in history) and all roads have always pointed to Rome. . . er. . . Al Qaeda and Afghanistan.
I saw that it's what I quoted All I want is an answer to the question,
Do you consider him a traitor because he doesn't believe/behave as the majority of the ummah?
Separate names with a comma.