Osama Bin Laden is Dead

Discussion in 'Politics' started by SciWriter, May 2, 2011.

  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    You tell me, I don't speak for everyone.
     
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  3. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    Well hold on a minute aren't you to a traitor to the ummah? Or do you only trade with muslims in your English homeland?
     
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  5. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    I only do business with muslims.
     
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  7. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    You made the claim, back to your usual practice? I am not asking everyone I am asking you, who claimed he was a traitor to the ummah
     
  8. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I'm british born and bred, so I am talking about my country.

    Where were you on 7/7? Prostrating to mecca I imagine. *sigh* Didn't the London bombings bother you Chi? Didn't you feel as if the nation had been attacked within its borders? I mean I'm just asking.
     
  9. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    You asked me a question and I said I can't answer for the entire muslim community regarding how they behave as individuals.

    I claimed he was a traitor, I didn't say you have to agree with my opinion.
     
  10. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Their ain't no Caliphate anymore, thank the gods.
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe, I am staggered by the implication that a country can be at war for 10 years based on an assumption for which it cannot even provide sufficient evidence to convince its own courts.

    But yeah, I believe that a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
     
  12. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    In what court did they fail to provide evidence?
     
  13. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    And I asked if he was a traitor akin to the way you are a traitor in your opinion. Do you consider him a traitor because he doesn't believe/behave as the majority of the ummah?
     
  14. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Except all those videos and tapes in which Osama claimed credit for his attacks?
     
  15. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    I was actualy in King's cross while the bombs went off I was living in NW1 at the time, you think im going to run around in a panic blaming Osama just because of a Bomb going off. Scare tactics don't work on me nobody can force me to hate another or wage war on another group of people, I fight to defend my family and I have a calm head when fighting I don't enter into ittle hissy fits or rages due to exposions in my vicinity.
     
  16. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    I mean really Sam its like pulling teeth. Why can't you give a straightforward answer to the following questions?

    Are you denying that Bin Laden created, funded and led al-Qaeda?

    Or are you denying that there is an al-qaeda?

    Or are you implying that al-qaeda has never engaged in terrorism?

    Because his guilt to any one of those questions is what had him on the most wanted list. I am asking you if you think Bin Laden is innocent of terrorism charges. I mean its only like the fourth time I've asked you.
     
  17. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    I already explained why I claim he is a traitor, im not repeating myself.
     
  18. Mrs.Lucysnow Valued Senior Member

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    No one is speaking of hate. I am asking whether you agree or disagree that Bin Laden was a threat to security and safety and had to be stopped one way or another.
     
  19. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    Fake videos, different face, different noses, gold ring on his ring finger, muslims don't wear gold.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The straight answer is that I haven't seen any evidence to convince me of the above

    And no he was not on the wanted list for 911. I believe a grand jury indicted him for the 1998 US embassy bombing, but he never stood trial for it so I don't know what the evidence is.
     
  21. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    No I didn't feel a threat from Bin Laden.
     
  22. superstring01 Moderator

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    Not that I, for a moment, believe that you could possibly set aside your weird conspiracy-o-philia to consider the obvious reality, but here's a short reading list for you:

    "The Looming Tower" - Lawrence Wright, for starters. (Pulitzer Prize Winner)
    "Inside the Jihad" - Omar Nasiri
    "Taliban: Militant Islam" - Ahmed Rashid
    "Ghost Wars" - Steve Coll
    "Jawbreaker" - Ralph Pazzullo
    "Al Qaeda in Its Own Words" (which, like, actually uses its members OWN WORDS) - Professor Gilles Kepel, Jean-Pierre Milelli, Pascale Ghazaleh and Omar Saghi​


    What's interesting is that this is but the tip of the iceberg. Numerous--as in THOUSANDS--of reporters have dug into this (probably one of the most investigated events in history) and all roads have always pointed to Rome. . . er. . . Al Qaeda and Afghanistan.

    ~String
     
  23. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    I saw that it's what I quoted All I want is an answer to the question,
    Do you consider him a traitor because he doesn't believe/behave as the majority of the ummah?
     

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