If and when I have that experience, I'll try and remember to let you know. Who said I didn't like it? Wait a minute! You purposely put that one in to get a specific reaction. I didn't bite. So you pretend that I did. Pitiful. Google. And as far as you're concerned, there is no evidence for God. Job done. Good. I really don't see much difference, given the path you've decided to take in this discussion. I've never claimed to ''understand atheists''. It's not. Simply because you have no concept of Theos in the first place, other than speculation. You can't seriously want evidence of something, that does not exist, to you, as you sit and read this. Then accept when I say ''God IS'', regardless of whether that's what you want to hear. That is my answer. Most of the evidences for God you find on a google search, I'm okay with. You're the one who invoked ''v'' (versus), not me. Other than that, there are two categories, Theos, and ATheos. It is what it is. There is God, and there is no God. We all come into this atmosphere with that. We all express that in some way. It seems to be a natural default for humans. I have come to believe that those two positions are correct. Well you're not going to understand it, until you accept it. I blindly accept what you, and everyone else says. It doesn't mean I have to believe it. Just answer the question. Or not. It's up to you. We all know your position Baldeee. You're atheist (lack belief in God). There's nothing to really argue about. I'm not interested in why you're an atheist. You have faith, but it's not in God. You don't believe in God, because as far as you can see God doesn't exist. You may have notions of thinking that the reason you don't believe in God, is because there is a lack of evidence for God. That being said, you believe that if evidence were to materialise, you would believe in the existence of God (atheist notion). But as of yet, throughout the whole of history, nothing has really come close to convincing you that there is a God. All notions of evidence of God has thus far been rejected by you. You are, however, still open to the possibility that one day physical evidence will manifest. Hence you regard yourself as agnostic/atheist. Other people are. So what does that mean? ''God IS'', is reasonable to me. I don't really need to clarify that. I don't need you to clarify why God ISN'T to me. I already have. God IS. Other than that, I don't think I could top these great thinkers explanation of evidence for God, which is why you should consult them. As far as pointing out stuff you don't recognise, I think the main one is... God. It's not about being born with a default, it is about your conscious and sub-conscious awareness. The way we currently are, at every given moment. jan.