Oh hell!

Discussion in 'Religion' started by StrangerInAStrangeLand, Oct 9, 2017.

  1. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member


    Are you responsible for going to hell?

    Last edited: Oct 9, 2017
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  3. Ted Grant II Registered Senior Member

    Christians are perfectly aware that the Hell idea is no longer credible.
    So, by a new revelation, they have modified the story.
    Hell doesn't exist.
    Instead, if you don't accept Jesus as your personal savior, then you suffer separation from God.
    You get to stay outside the Pearly Gates.
    You can see through the railings.
    You can see how much fun the saved ones are having.
    You can see all your dead pets and your Granny partying.
    And they can see you.
    But you can't go in.
    For ever.

    But God loves you.
    And he needs money!
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  5. StrangerInAStrangeLand SubQuantum Mechanic Valued Senior Member

    Many yet claim to believe it.

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  7. Seaman Registered Member

    There is no evidence for this nonsense.
    God is cleverer than any human and knows the appropriate reward or punishment.
    He doesn't need any help from you to work out what to do !
    It doesn't matter what conditions you dream up, God will know !
  8. birch Valued Senior Member

    the only reason we have a concept of hell is because we experience it. hell is here. here is hell.

    i used to wonder why i was depressed before and i thought it was just because of something immediate going on in my life but i found out it was deeper-rooted.

    the realization that even evil can exist at all, and even if there could or be a better place is only a partial alleviation or comfort, but not a real or true one.

    if all these things can happen here, it can happen again. just like this universe came into existence. some may think it's okay but i have an existential problem knowing such horrible things can exist even if there is good, it doesn't change that. it doesn't change those who suffer in the past, present or future.

    i find it unacceptable and even unbelievable and wrong in some absolute sense that it can exist at all. anywhere or in any capacity.

    it gives me a sense that there is no real hope, there is no real saving grace, there is no real safety, there is no guarantee and there is no real good higher absolute authority, otherwise this wouldn't be possible or would happen. this realization is almost mindboggling to me.

    i've come to the conclusion, the only heaven or even justice is nothing at all. no existence is true justice. nothing existing ever at all and at any time. this is the only ultimate truth that can be a solution.
  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

    I think, Ted Grant II, is banned.
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

    When I was a kid I was under the impression that going to heaven meant going to church every day. That was my dad's idea of fun.
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

    And there's no evidence for this nonsense.
  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

    "Hell" does not exist.

    What then, can we say of heaven?

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