Objective Truth

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Mind Over Matter, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Truth says: you've got it inside out and upside down. But I won't further my opinion on why I comment so—[yawn] I just can't be bothered.
     
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  3. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    Ultimate truth is that which is completely unknowable either empirically or philosophically but can still be acknowledged.
     
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  5. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    If it's unknowable then it's irrelevant, so why bother?
     
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  7. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The ultimate truth is a journey, rather than a destination. It is like walking on a mountain ridge thinking that next rise is the end of the hike. When you reach the top of that rise, you can see that the ridge goes even further. You were excited for a while thinking this is it, only to feel tired when the journey continues. But you take a deep breath and start walking again to the next rise which you again believe is the destination.

    I generate a wide range ideas rather than settle on the status quo. The nature of truth is all in the journey. If anyone claims they found the end, they have given up and decided to squat where they stop.
     
  8. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    And thus there being no absolute truth is illustrated.

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  9. hansda Valued Senior Member

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    I think the truth is one . It has no change . It does not vary . What varies is ; our perception of the truth .

    For example take the case of gravity . Gravity is the same thing and there is some truth in it . But Newton's perception and Einstein's perception of gravity are different , though it is the same gravity in both the cases .

    So, there is no division in the truth . All the divisions are in our perceptions of the truth .
     
  10. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    hansda

    But then the question is "Is there anything we call Absolute Truth that actually is Absolute Truth". I say no.

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  11. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Then the above is an absolute truth.
     
  12. Grumpy Curmudgeon of Lucidity Valued Senior Member

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    wynn

    Only within the symbology and logic of linguistics.

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  13. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    objective truth?
    don't you mean "subjective"?
    in my opinion truth has no qualifiers, which of course is subjective truth.

    make sense?
     
  14. wlminex Banned Banned

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    "I think, therefore I am" (Citation: R. Descartes)
     
  15. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    "I yam what I yam." (Citation: Popeye)
     
  16. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Objective truth is a perceptible threshold which judgment must cross in order to visit reality.
     
  17. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    But what lures judgment to cross the threshold?
     
  18. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    LSD rocks!
     
  19. Big Chiller Registered Senior Member

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    If that statement is correct then the statement itself isn't an absolute truth but whatever it's attempting to refer to is...
     
  20. Mind Over Matter Registered Senior Member

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    Without God (who is absolute truth) man can only know subjective truths. Revealed truth is always true.

    When they say "There's no such thing as absolute truth." it is a statement that's being made absolutely. They have defeated their own argument.
     
  21. wlminex Banned Banned

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    "You is what you is, and you ain't what you ain't" (Citation: John Prine)
     
  22. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @MOM --

    Citation needed.
     
  23. Rav Valued Senior Member

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    This is nonsense. The nature of a thing is what it is, even if we don't understand what it is; even if we misunderstand it. Kind of like a planet off in some far away galaxy has the features that it has even if we don't know what they are, or how the world is actually round even if you think it's flat. These are not subjective truths, they are actual truths, just as the non-existence of your god would be an actual truth if indeed your god doesn't exist.
     

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