Obesity. Americans got it covered.

Discussion in 'Health & Fitness' started by Kernl Sandrs, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    I agree, we only need rural areas for farmland, everyone else should be moved to the slums... er, I mean cities. We could probably produce a much more efficient society.
     
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  3. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Spot the whale competition?
     
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  5. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Lol, I should bottle my metabolism and sell it around the world.

    I eat shitloads of grease, and my body fat level is 16% when I'm *sedentary*.
     
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  7. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    You know, type II Diabetes isn't just a fat person disease anymore. And just so you know, cardiovascular disease and diabetes are comorbid.
     
  8. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Same. If we agree a price we could both be rich.

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  9. Kernl Sandrs Registered Senior Member

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  10. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    for the most part, some people just value shoving junk food down their pie holes more than they value their health. same could be said for smoking, and drinking too much, and many other aspects of our lifestyles. it's no mystery. but perhaps it's a passive-aggressive suicide attempt?
     
  11. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    I knew a stewie vid was coming.
     
  12. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know anyone who doesn't eat too much, drink too much, or smoke too much. Heck you could argue having lots of sex is a passive-aggressive suicide attempt too as you're bound to catch something serious eventually. That leaves about 3% of the global population. So maybe we should just let nature take its course and thin out our numbers? It has to happen eventually.
     
  13. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    i'll keep saying it...there is something wrong with us. :itold:
     
  14. PieAreSquared Woo is resistant to reason Registered Senior Member

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    I am just thankful that they aren't looking for mine

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  15. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    The increasing overweight issue in the western world directly correlates with the increasing official advice that people should eat high carbohydrates and low fat, with tons of fruit and vegetables. This advice started back in the 1950s and has tracked very well with epidemics in diabetes II, CAD, and cancer. All of which were rare in the earlier decades.

    Diabetes II is a disease caused by excessive consumption of carbohydrates. It is entirely preventable, but still official advice is to eat more carbs.

    There are no essential carbs, the human body does not need any.

    There is also NO science that shows a link between fat and heart disease outside of the presence of carbohydrates.

    Body fat is caused by excess carbohydrates. Stop eating carbs and the problem goes away.

    Dietary fat is the body's preferred source of energy - i.e. keytones.

    In carbohydrate metabolism all carbs are converted to glucose. The body needs to rid the blood of glucose quickly since it will become toxic. Insulin enables cells to take up glucose for energy and any excess glucose is then stored as body fat. Eat more carbs than you need and you will become fat.

    In fat metabolism, (only occurs when glucose levels are low, i.e. under low or zero carb conditions) the fat is converted to keytone molecules that the cells can use as energy. The good part here is that any excess keytones leave the body in the urine and do not lead to fat deposits.

    An ideal diet is around 40% fat, 60% protein, 0% carbs. The body still needs some glucose and it will convert any dietary protein as it needs it (i.e. no excess).

    The brain is 65% fat, and the heart requires fat to function correctly.

    Fat is essential for a healthy life and for efficient energy production. And protein is essential for body structure.

    In other words the official advice of high carbs and low fat is directly the reverse of human requirements and hence we should not be surprised that we have epidemics of obesity, diabetes, CAD, and cancer.

    It is estimated that the current generation is likely to see a reduction in longevity because we are now seeing an increase in child obesity and heart disease. This is a direct result of the idiotic dietary advice that we are all being FED.

    See this May 2010 article from Scientific American - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=carbs-against-cardio

    Quote - Processed carbohydrates, which many Americans eat today in place of fat, may increase the risk of obesity, diabetes and heart disease more than fat does—a finding that has serious implications for new dietary guidelines expected this year.

    Quote - The finding joins other conclusions of the past few years that run counter to the conventional wisdom that saturated fat is bad for the heart because it increases total cholesterol levels. That idea is “based in large measure on extrapolations, which are not supported by the data,” Krauss says.

    Note that simple carbs like fruit juice are converted to glucose very quickly. If that energy is not used immediately then fat deposits will be the result. Great for an athlete but poisonous to everyone else. Fruit - nice package of vitamins wrapped in deadly poison. Eat animal products instead - they contain all the vitamins needed.
     
  16. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    There is no real reason why cities need to be slums. They can be made more attractive. This is the whole reason behind the New Urbanist movement.
     
  17. Anti-Flag Pun intended Registered Senior Member

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    Of course, I probably came across far more sarcastic than I meant to.
    Cities have always been centres for dirt, crime, poor living conditions(for those who aren't exceedingly wealthy) etc. This mostly stems from being a natural consequence of packing too many people into a tight space, and as much as I agree that it is preventable; the world would need a radical change to move away from this. Many countries are terrible at managing space effectively, with Japan possibly being one of the few exceptions.
    It may actually end up being a case of essentially demolishing large areas and rebuilding them to be effecient. It's almost ironic in how wasteful that policy would be though.
     
  18. Fitztyp0 Registered Member

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    Oh my God. I need to see Anti Flag at a non Warped setting... those Chicago dates look inviting.
     
  19. Pinwheel Banned Banned

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    Holy cow.
     
  20. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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  22. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    That's disgusting.
    The one on the right is a cutie though.
     
  23. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    That is damn funny.
    Worth watching from start to finish.
    George Carlin.
    Why did I never hear of him before?
     

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