Nude Child Photography OK?

Discussion in 'Art & Culture' started by Thoreau, Jun 11, 2007.

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Is nude child photography, purely from an artistic point of view, acceptable?

Poll closed Jul 11, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    humans are stupid.


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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    Family photos are one thing (toddlers in tubs etc.), if for example some slob photographed me and my ass without caring about my consent at around 14 and called it 'art' while whacking off or for profit i would hunt the person down and throw him a beating for a few hours...at least anyway. It would be my right.

    Sure, the easiest way to look at it is they did not get consent (18 years old for consent) to satisfy their perversions so i wouldnt need consent to kick their ass.
     
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  5. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like I missed this thread :shrug:

    As for not being right to see younger kids naked... I will tell you this...

    As a man I'm not really disagreeing with the idea of seeing a young 15 year old girl naked. Infact James R I would say Art like a photo of this is meant solely for arousal, otherwise why have them nude? Nude photos are meant to entice and excite... that is where their art comes from...

    Now for heavens sake do I like watching 15 year olds naked? Only if they look 17 :C~ I don't really think if they appear older it's wrong, after-all who could guess then... but anyway for anyone interested I've recently found out a really weird thing.. it would seem that in other countries nude photos of children are not so easily attacked, you can see many if you type in "nudiest photos" or the like. I was pretty surprised because I don't understand what makes it legal just cuz they're on a nudiest beach or whateve, but ehh..

    15, 16, 17 year olds are all there for your eyes... be careful though cuz it's really more depressing than exciting... you are depressed to see what you once had, youth, then depressed equally cuz they seem to be havin more fun than you ever did

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  7. John99 Banned Banned

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    Suppose somene took YOU (an adult) and forced you to pose with your weenie out in spite of your protests?

    The subject needs to have the ability to make an informed decision, without this it is a violation of their rights. So by the time the subject is capable of articulating a decision it would be too late.
     
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    Pornography is made with the intention to arise a sexual desire for the subject.
     
  12. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    So are the nude art photos and stuff :L The point is to make them as sexy as one can...
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    With the assumption that nudity does not? Rather a sweeping generalisation of all people :shrug:
     
  14. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    That's the definition of pornography. The other opposite of it is an epiphany.
    A nude photo can be an epiphany as well as pornography. The difference is in the intention which manifests in the execution.

    You're not a particularly healthy individual, I imagine even a naked rat could make you sexually aroused.

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    Any way, to be serious, did the pic I posted looked pornographic to you?
     
  15. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder? I suppose so; I would hate to have nude pictures of my kids in circulation though.
     
  16. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Same question as I asked darksizz for you: did the pic I posted looks pornographic to you?
    If not, then there's your line.
    In your mind as well as in the mind of the artist.
     
  17. John99 Banned Banned

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    That is a good point Sam. Avatar's pic and viewpoint are understandable but the inability to consent on the part of the subject is vital to this subject and supercedes any assumption.

    If every person were willing to be photographed with their genitals out i suppose this would not be an issue, since this is NOT the case we are making decisions for another person based on assumption...AND how do we gauge what is 'ART' and what is a violation of a persons rights:shrug: or specifically porn.

    This is the essence of dictaTORIAL THOUGHT.
     
  18. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Tell me of a subject where's there a total consent among all of humanity?
    Or at least an absolute majority consent?
    Piracy, slavery, genocide and a few other jus cogens (ius cogens) norms.
     
  19. John99 Banned Banned

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    I am not following you, we are talking about INDIVIDUAL consent...maybe that is part of the problem. All people are not the same, but then I am not a socialist.
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    What about the consent? If a person is made to pose naked against his or her wish it's a criminal offense in most countries.
    But if the parents of the kid allow it and the kid also has no problems with that, there's no legal problem, or a problem of consent.
     
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    Kids would not 'have a problem' doing many things that are not in their best interest.

    The notion of art is being bastardised anyway...lets not kid ourselves.
     
  22. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't read what I wrote.
    No idea what you are talking about.
     
  23. phonetic stroking my banjo Registered Senior Member

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    Mmm, Tracy Emin and Damien Hirst come to mind..
     
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