niknames for germans during ww2

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  1. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    just wonderind why did we call them jerries and krauts?
     
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  3. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Jerry = Gerrie = Ger(man) IIRC.
    Kraut from Sauerkraut - a German food.
    (Much like the French calling the English rosbif = Roast Beef)
     
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  5. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    o.k thanks oli that has cleared things up for me.
     
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  7. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    Kraut is an easy one to explain: its origin comes from the word sauerkraut, which is a common German food. Good stuff with Nurnberger brat and brochen, too. I think the original use comes from seafaring days when sauerkraut was used as a source of vitamin C among sailors to avoid scurvy. The British Navy switched to limes but he German Navy continued to use sauerkraut. Thus Brits became known as "limies" and Germans "krauts."

    The term Jerry, however, is a bit elusive. I started looking into this years ago and found no definitive explanation. The most likely is that it is simply a phonetic play on the word "Germany." There's a long tradition of using personal names to create a pejorative for other groups or nations, particularly in war. This is often a general personal name that refers to all members of the group in question. Examples include: "Charlie" for the North Vietnamese (which comes from abbreviation of their designation Viet Cong, which renders phonetically to "victor charlie" in US military alphabet); "Tommy" for the British (chosen by the British War Office itself as "Tommy Atkins"), and "Ivan" for the Russians.
     
  8. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    ok another question then how come during ww2 there was so much ditrust with the alies among common soldiers like the american thought the brits were useles and the same with the british ??
     
  9. SkinWalker Archaeology / Anthropology Moderator

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    I don't think it was "distrust" so much as it was rivalry. The Americans began to dominate the European theater with regard to planning, strategy, and logistics and the British were understandably put off by this seemingly arrogant and presumptuous attitude. The Americans, however, had technology, manpower, and deep pockets, which were undeniably advantageous resources.

    Joint operations often led to competition for "moments of glory" that each side knew would go down in history. Sometimes this led to bungles in the execution of their plans as well as oversight with regard to the actual forces on the ground in German occupied territory, such as with Operation Market Garden where the German soldiers were supposed to be old men and kids.
     
  10. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    over all i think the russians and the germans were the srongest nations during ww2 but i also think that america had the advantege of coming in 2 years later than anyone else.
     
  11. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Some other names for the Germans were Fritz, and Heini.

    That is a very disputably idea, from the reading I have done on the economics of the rise of WWII Germany I would not place them above the U.S. as a strong nation, and the same could be said for the Russians, almost a third of Russian equipment came from the west during the war, and it was equipment that they couldn't manufacture in enough quantizes for them selves,
    Transportation being one of those items, a 1/3 of their tank forces were armed with American and British tanks, and a 1/3 of their Air Force was American and British aircraft, half of the trucks in the Soviet Army at the end of the war were U.S. manufacture, and with out those trucks the Soviets would have been a foot sore, slogging through the mud army, and the Germans Mechanized formations would have run ring around them and chopped them up peace meal.
     
  12. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    sorry let me corect thi russians i belive without them the war would have been lost germany could have took on evry evry nation one on one that is.
     
  13. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    Fritz were did that name come from?
     
  14. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No, you still GROSSLY underestimate the economic power, natural resources and industrial capacity of the U.S. You also seem unaware that we bombed Germany's industrial sectors to rubble.

    And you also completely fail to understand that for Germany to win the war they would have had to occupy the U.S. - something they had neither the manpower nor equipment to do.
     
  15. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    with an army of milliopn strong?
     
  16. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    For starters, compare the population of Germany and the U.S. Next, just how long would the German supply lines have to be to support and sustain a U.S. invasion?? You're overlooking several quite obvious things.

    I believe your understanding of things military is really very lacking, sorry. Better for you to stick with other topics that you might actually know about.
     
  17. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    jesus man im just trying to talk about that so erm hows about scre you

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    but to be fair would have america been able to invade germany on it's own say if germany had conqured britian and never invaded russia i think that it would have been about an even battle
     
  18. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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  19. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    ok ill give over america was geat they cud do anythink no one can hold a candle to them
     
  20. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    They worked together with many different countries to overcome the Germans. Without the aid and support of ALL nations involved the war could have dragged on allot longer. Please read the link I gave to you.
     
  21. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No offense intended. You asked what I took to be an honest answer and I gave you an honest answer so that you could begin to understand how far off the mark you were. The rest was just a personal observation because it seems you've never done any real study on the subjects. My point is that you were making statements as if they were facts - a serious mistake if you don't know what you're talking about. (And you're still making them.) Much, much better to just ask questions when you don't know something.
     
  22. ashpwner Registered Senior Member

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    never clained they were facts if u rember i said in my opinion as in i nether said that i was right it is what i thought
     
  23. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I'll back up and apologize - sorry! Because you did indeed say, "I think."

    Just a suggestion - it would still be better to simply ask in question form.
     

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