Newton's pebbles

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by nebel, Aug 19, 2016.

  1. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    He's only dug up this about two point sources because it is a scenario in which interference does lead to a standing wave, after we pointed out they were not the same thing.

    But of course he has no idea what his his two point sources could be. The sun is (a) a single source and (b) not a point.

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  3. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. As you pointed out earlier this is useless...
     
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  5. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    au contraire, the Sun has many points, not just two that generate the pulsations, think the convection cells. In this 25 year old brainwave, I leave the eventual discovery of the nature and origin of these resonances to better minds, but are pointing out the resemblance to a doubling of wave-length resonance (press the right pedal on your piano) and the observed eigenschwingungen of the solar system. Let's wait and see what the exo planet research brings up between star pulsations and planet spacings.
    Why would you rather look at these math curiosities numerology than the relationships of the orbits as they appear when seen in terms of wavelength, in a "c" progression?
    Among the definition of "numerology" is its relationship to the occult, the mystical, and with this model of the solar system as a wave pattern tried to take it away from that discredited branch and link it to matching natural patterns
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, I think leaving it to better minds is a jolly good idea.
     
  8. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    At least you admit that the model deserves the attention of better minds. You have raised specific objections (like the idea that standing waves can only be caused by reflection), and they have been refuted one by one . There are many possibilities how this 7 fold doubling and coinciding with solar pulsations can have arisen, and the future will show whether it is a unique, only-here phenomenon, or a universe-wide model.
     
  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Yes well done, or rather well researched, Nebel, you are quite right about interference from multiple point sources being able to create standing waves.

    I had not mentioned it originally as I had no reason to think multiple point sources of anything were supposedly involved in this case. You had made no reference to them whatever. We were talking, it seemed, about the sun which is neither a point source nor a multiple source.

    What you have now done is to look up how a standing wave can arise in the absence of reflection - in order to try to overcome my objection - and now you are trying to work this into your notion retroactively.

    This is quite hopeless. Further dialogue will serve no purpose.
     
  10. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    Contrary to what you believe to be the case, these references to the origin of standing waves have been on my books for decades, but i was glad you brought up your objections, because it gave me occasion to refute them, You fulfilled in part the reason I put this model up for discussion. and --so: how about the standing wave we live on, the arm of the milky way? BSW: I postulated that the doubling pattern linked to possible past standing waves is consistent with a property of space, not dependent on the mass of the planets.
     
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