I was unaware that a subjective value judgment based on personal experience could be "wrong". It was my understanding that same were either extant or no, but it is of no great importance. I will take it that you have had similar experience on both bases and have arrived at a differing value judgment. Allow me to elaborate. Once upon a time there were only Intel based pc's for personal use and they were all for the office and nothing else. Then other platforms were created - Apples (the very richest of commercial artists liked those because they could output printing in "PostScript" for better output) Atari (games only, but colour) and Amiga (weirdo's and scientists liked those, and they not only did colour, you could add on "cards" to boot your Amiga up as an Apple or a pc with the requisite OS's). Later, the market thinned out and "pc clones" proliferated such that they swamped the other platforms. Adobe saw the handwriting on the wall and made their software compliant with platforms other than Mac so the artists, writers and their kin began to migrate beyond the Apple. Apple morphed to Macintosh and added a few office software offerings, but they remained the "la - tee - da" of desktop devices. (Mac owners will tell you that they still are) I agree that now, most software is available in most formats so any machine can be used to do art or office or science to one extent or another. I must point out that now, the "pc clone" is just the "pc", and they are no longer married to Intel. While much of the office stuff is still rolling nicely on these machines, the aftermarket has expanded into the builders arena such that they can do pretty much anything that you want. While the proprietary patents make the architecture of the competing chips slightly different, I agree that they do pretty much the same job. My personal "feel" however, is that my AMD machines just do a slightly better job with art, music, science and the like while my Intel based machines chug along nicely as office tools and do not do as good with games etc. This is my personal take however, your results may vary. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! As for Intel or AMD being "better".....I have used both cpu's and smoked both cpu,s, neither has proven to be more long lasting or reliable in my experience, though I must admit that this old AMD 64 is still chugging along quite nicely, despite some rough times in the past. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! This is partially why I went with the quad 64 for the new machine, a value judgment based on my personal experience with both types of chip. I like the AMD better than the Intel, personal opinion though. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!