New historical understandings.

Discussion in 'History' started by geordief, May 14, 2018.

  1. river

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    I gave a link , in my post #19 , go to it if you have the courage .

    Stop dancing around any evidence given .

    It is not easy to face the truth , I know because I have been there .
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Still no pix. You won't post pix because you have no pix that prove your assertion.
     
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  5. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If there is evidence of maize in India, why would you conclude that it came from America? Why could it not be indigenous to India too?
     
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  7. river

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    Because it simply wasn't .

    Was coca indigenous to India ? No

    Is Tumeric indigenous to the Americas ? No

    Is Teak wood found in the Americas ? No . It is in India .

    Or to the point , is everything found everywhere on every continent ? NO .
     
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  8. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    That's a little too simple.

    We don't know for sure. Maybe some day we'll find evidence that it was.

    We don't know for sure. Maybe some day we'll find evidence that it was.

    We don't know for sure. Maybe some day we'll find evidence that it was.

    We didn't know that Native Americans came from Asia until we found evidence that they did. We didn't know that Polynesian sweet potatoes came from South America until we found evidence that they did.

    If there's evidence of maize in India, let's not jump to conclusions about how it got there.

    Nobody said it was. The point is that if something is somewhere, it could be indigenous or it could be a traveller. Don't make unfounded assumptions about which it is.
     
  9. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Could have been on a starship, could have been on a shuttle, could have been beamed there, time travelers could have brought it from the distant future. Atlanteans could have spread it around. Plenty of rational explanations.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I was thinking more along the lines of dugout canoes, but yeah.
     
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  11. river

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    And don't make unfounded assumptions about what is indigenous and what isn't .

    Corn is simple not found in India , as an indigenous crop. Period
     
  12. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    He doesn't provide the pix that would support his position, because there are none.
     
  13. river

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    Explain further your point here ..if you can
     
  14. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I asked for pix that would show that maize was in India way back when. None were produced. Bald assertions don't feed the cows.
     
  15. RainbowSingularity Registered Senior Member

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    "our" ?
    you are refering to a specific culture or nationality or cultural identity ?

    you are asking for an opinion of interpretation of the Eurocentric puritin US immigrant cultures perspective on technologys application in a moral imperative functional society ?

    subjective
    introspective
    third person
    judgement based on morals or ethics or functional relationships ?
    economys ?
    socio-economic models of development ?
    macro economic evolution as a functional socio-cultural relationship to 1st world technoalogical development ?
     

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